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T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:11 AM Apr 2015

Daily Express weather warning: beware a shower of extreme inaccuracy

Excellent article about one of the favourite pet topics of the British extreme right wing tabloid the Daily Express

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2015/apr/09/daily-express-weather-warning-beware-a-shower-of-extreme-inaccuracy

Express weather is not like normal weather. It’s not the weather we experience, or at least not yet. Express weather is what you might encounter on Mars or Venus: extreme heat or extreme cold interspersed with wild storms.

That its predictions are as contradictory as they are bizarre and that they seldom come to pass seems to deter their repetition not one jot. The newspaper appears to assume that its readers have thistledown memories: no recollection of the predictions it made even a few days before. Given that people continue to buy this rubbish, it may, unfortunately, be right.

So, on 16 March, its front page told us “Britain set for HOTTEST Easter EVER as temperatures to rocket to 80F in holiday heatwave”. Needless to say, the story was helpfully illustrated with pictures of young women in bikinis, in case we could not otherwise imagine what a heatwave might be like. On 26 March, this public service was followed by “Easter weather forecast: TEN inches of snow, gales and plummeting temps.” The same journalist, Nathan Rao, wrote both articles.

Today, the man most frequently cited in improbable weather stories in the Express (and sometimes elsewhere) is James Madden, who runs a company called Exacta Weather. His wild predictions have formed the basis of Express stories for several years, and appear in several of those I’ve just mentioned. So I sent him a list of questions. (I also sent a list to the newspaper, but have not received a response). Instead of specific answers, he sent me a note that seemed to me to consist largely of bluster and threats.
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Daily Express weather warning: beware a shower of extreme inaccuracy (Original Post) T_i_B Apr 2015 OP
US weather predictions just as ridiculous Demeter Apr 2015 #1
"people might be inclined to ignore it if they’ve heard the media cry wolf 100 times before" DetlefK Apr 2015 #2
While the Express is ridiculous in its articles, I think Monbiot is unfairly calling out Madden muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #3
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
1. US weather predictions just as ridiculous
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:46 AM
Apr 2015

Weather is the new "if it bleeds, it leads" in what passes for journalism these days, also known as "infotainment".

Between the loss of weather data satellites and the poorly functioning computer models, I haven't seen an accurate prediction span for years.

Back when we had real people with insight and local experience, weather predictions were much more likely to be accurate. But they took the people and the experience out and put the machinery in.

And the "Garbage In = Garbage Out" effect took hold.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
2. "people might be inclined to ignore it if they’ve heard the media cry wolf 100 times before"
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:08 AM
Apr 2015

- You are Hitler!
- No, YOU are Hitler!
- Says someone who is... just like Hitler!

We were warned about the atheist muslim Communist-Nazi, with his fascist thugs enforcing liberal values, the brutal, wimpy, ineffective and insidious dictator who projects weakness to our enemies and is just like Hitler and/or the Anti-Christ.
We were warned...
And we didn't listen...

But there is still time to bash Feminazis, the biased climate-scientists sucking on their sweet research-grants, and the fascists who want to prevent the US from becoming a christian theocracy.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,392 posts)
3. While the Express is ridiculous in its articles, I think Monbiot is unfairly calling out Madden
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:37 AM
Apr 2015

this time. He is quoted in both articles, but it's not his predictions that form the (shaky) basis for their sensationalism. He said, for the March 16th article:

James Madden, forecaster for Exacta Weather, said: “We will gradually see a return to some much colder and more wintry conditions as we progress towards the second half of March.

“As we progress into this weekend and the early part of next week much colder air will approach us from the east and leave us in a much colder feeling easterly flow.

“Throughout next next week there is the potential for some more notable and widespread snow showers across the country.

“However, warmer weather is around the corner, and parts of the UK can expect some widespread warm temperatures and pleasant weather throughout May.”

And for March 27th:
James Madden, forecaster for Exacta Weather, said the worst of the weather over the next few days will be in the north.

He added: "The colder conditions will be more prominent in parts to the north, with parts of the south featuring the best of the milder temperatures.

"The weekend will also see some rather windy conditions and potential gales developing for many, in particular, in some parts of the north.

"Some slightly milder temperatures and periods of sunshine can also be expected later in the week in parts of the south.

"There is now a chance that temperatures could feature at below-average for the March period as a whole, and on the basis of the upcoming week.

"This would bring our first below-average month since August of last year in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET)."

which may not be that far off. There were very strong winds at the end of March. The Guardian itself was pointing out snow on 26th March: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/26/snow-pennines-yorkshire-unsettled-weather-uk-weekend . And we have had warm weather since Monday.
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