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http://www.dw.de/imf-walks-out-on-talks-with-greece-eu-tells-athens-stop-gambling/a-18512568The International Monetary Fund has walked out on talks with Greece, dashing hopes of a compromise in ongoing debt negotiations. The EU told Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras to "stop gambling."
IMF walks out on talks with Greece, EU tells Athens 'stop gambling'
11.06.2015
The IMF said it was bringing its team back to Washington because there had been no sign of a compromise.
"There are major differences between us in most key areas," IMF spokesman Gerry Rice said in Washington. "There has been no progress in narrowing these differences recently and thus we are well away from an agreement."
However, the IMF said that while "the ball is very much in Greece's court right now," the fund "never leaves the table and remains engaged."
The creditors want Greece to commit to economic reforms before they pay another 7.2 billion euros ($8.2 billion). Athens needs the money to meet debt obligations worth 1.6 billion euros at the end of the month and later this summer.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The IMF is a casino - the House always wins.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Lies, lies, lies and eventually everything breaks down.
And if others give you a hard time for that, they are the bad guys and you are the victim.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Greece is no innocent victim here. The inefficiency of greek bureaucracy and the every-day corruption in Greece were legendary. (Good luck getting an appointment for a surgery without a bribe.) As was the old greek tradition of tax-evasion.
Blaming it all on greedy banks is cheap.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)are the ones to be held accountable, not random poor people living in Greece.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)The politicians who cooked the books, the administrators who packed bureaucracy with cushy jobs for family-members, everybody who aided and abetted the systemic bribery, all the rich people who evaded taxes out of greed, all the poor people who evaded taxes because everybody does it...
bemildred
(90,061 posts)This is true anywhere you go. All this talk about "Greece" doing things is bullshit, things are done by people, people need to be accountable if you want things done differently, you can't correct your dog by beating your cat or the neighbor down the street, that is just lashing out aimlessly.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)"Deciders", that would be government and courts.
How many greek multi-millionaire tax-evaders have been sent to jail so far?
How many programs has the greek government launched to convince people that it's not okay to evade taxes simply because the rich people do it, we are all in this together, paying taxes is the right thing to do?
(The only program against tax-evasion that I have heard about was basically snitching.)
bemildred
(90,061 posts)The point is the poor greeks were not the deciders then and they are not now either. Punishing them won't get the money back.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)(You just made me laugh. Not kidding.)
The Greeks cooked their books.
Greedy bankers caused the recession and that caused the greek house of cards to collapse.
Greece elected a populist, leftist government with the express purpose of cleaning everything up.
Instead they got grandstanding, trickery and mind-games. (Translated: populism.)
bemildred
(90,061 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)"getting the cow off the ice"
The image: A cow wandered off on a frozen lake and now you have to get the animal back to safety.
The meaning: "Solving a problem." or "Solving the biggest problem first and then having time to figure out the rest."
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)"The IMF said it was bringing its team back to Washington because there had been no sign of a compromise. "
"However, the IMF said that while "the ball is very much in Greece's court right now," the fund "never leaves the table and remains engaged."
Now-which one is a fucking lie?