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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 11:19 PM Jun 2015

Video: Israeli soldiers violently attack unarmed Palestinian man

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/soldiers-violently-palestinian

A video recorded yesterday by Palestine TV at Jalazone Refugee Camp 4 miles north of Ramallah begins with a soldier yelling and then lunging towards an unarmed Palestinian man appearing to be walking past him on a street. The man raises his open hand, palm forward, to thwart off his attacker.


(See photo)

Haaretz reports the soldier are “screaming expletives” and “taunting” the man to respond while “vowing that should he say one more word then he will “f*** his mother.” The soldier slams into the man, then swings his right hand up into the air and strikes it down hard over the Palestinian man’s head and face.


(See photo)

A shuffle ensues, again the man raises his open palms indicating a defensive, passive gesture.


(See photo)

So opens Palestine TV’s broadcast by Ali Dar Ali, recording the attack in which several soldiers proceed to corner and surround the man, capturing him. One soldiers can be seen taking a swing at his head at 35 seconds in.


(watch video)


It's just another shitty day for the average Palestinian as he is beaten by thugs from the most moral army in the world.
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Video: Israeli soldiers violently attack unarmed Palestinian man (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 OP
...according to Mondoweiss oberliner Jun 2015 #1
Just so my fellow DUers understand it... R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #2
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #3
Apparently calling a video where the IDF beats the shit out of a Palestinian is now called propagand R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #5
If anyone has the jury decision for the above hide, I would love to see it. I was on the rhett o rick Jun 2015 #29
Sorry, I don't. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #30
How did you vote? Mosby Jun 2015 #31
Nevertheless, the event really happened... Little Tich Jun 2015 #4
Good for IDF court-martialing soldiers. n/t shira Jun 2015 #9
Newsflash, shira, this is the mindset of Likud, the right wing now in power, and the mindless sheep R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #23
So the mindset of Likud is to court-marshall & hold soldiers accountable.... shira Jun 2015 #24
It's the mindset of the RW, and their sheep supporters to look at Palestinians like animals. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #25
You seem disappointed the IDF did the right thing by.... shira Jun 2015 #26
No, shira. Brutally realistic. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #27
Okay. Sure, sure. n/t shira Jun 2015 #28
according to Haaretz and Times of Israel who are both linked to in this story azurnoir Jun 2015 #7
Those sources do actual reporting oberliner Jun 2015 #12
Heavily edited video. Gotta wonder what's missing. n/t shira Jun 2015 #8
not if ya watch the one from Ha'aretz azurnoir Jun 2015 #10
He's not following orders Mosby Jun 2015 #14
BS at 14 seconds his hand is not on the gun nor at any time before or after azurnoir Jun 2015 #15
your splitting hairs Mosby Jun 2015 #16
again BS at no time did he have his hand on the gun and infact at 18 seconds the IDF soldier strikes azurnoir Jun 2015 #17
You need to get your eyes checked Mosby Jun 2015 #18
one shot shows a gloved hand the 1 second later shows an ungloved hand azurnoir Jun 2015 #19
you failed to completely hide the Times of Israel stamp on your 1st shot which you claim is Haaretz azurnoir Jun 2015 #20
For fucks sake they are screen caps of your fucking post Mosby Jun 2015 #21
of my first post maybe when I posted both video's azurnoir Jun 2015 #22
There was no attempt to take the gun either azurnoir Jun 2015 #32
What a bunch of d**kheads! n/t Little Tich Jun 2015 #33
Mondoweiss is considered a hate site by some King_David Jun 2015 #11
...by some amateur hasbarists no doubt. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #13
A website supporting Hamas is a hate site. Full stop. Period. n/t shira Jun 2015 #34
words fail except to say another day under occupation azurnoir Jun 2015 #6
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. ...according to Mondoweiss
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jun 2015

Another garbage site along with Israel National News that ought never be poster here.

Neither is interested in actual reporting - just propaganda.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
2. Just so my fellow DUers understand it...
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 11:46 PM
Jun 2015

Perhaps ober missed the video where the IDF just beat the shit out of an unarmed Palestinian? \

I guess when one has video evidence of cruelty of police and the military beating up and even killing people, in America or Israel, there will be a certain amount of nay sayers that will do their derndest to pretend it never happened; mumbling something unintelligible in the corner.

Video of oppression is video evidence, ober, from Ferguson, North Charleston, Baltimore, Beitunia or when the IDF snuff out 4 Palestinian children on the beaches of Gaza.


I'll leave to to think about that with your shame.

Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #2)

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Apparently calling a video where the IDF beats the shit out of a Palestinian is now called propagand
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:18 AM
Jun 2015

by some who have lost the ability to see things clearly.

Sad.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
29. If anyone has the jury decision for the above hide, I would love to see it. I was on the
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:25 PM
Jun 2015

jury but not sure my vote counted.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
4. Nevertheless, the event really happened...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:15 AM
Jun 2015

IDF court-martials soldiers who beat Palestinian man

Source: Times of Israel

Investigation finds that initial arrest of victim was legitimate, but manner in which it was carried out was ‘incorrect’

The IDF court-martialed three soldiers from the Kfir Brigade on Sunday after they were seen in a video beating an unarmed Palestinian man during a clash over the weekend in the West Bank, It sentenced two soldiers to suspended prison sentences and ordered detention on base for a third.

Kfir Brigade commander Colonel Asher Ben-Lulu sentenced one soldier, who was seen cursing the Palestinian man, to 30 days detention on base. Two other soldiers, filmed beating up the man were given a suspended sentence of 28 days in a military jail. Their company commander was also reprimanded by Ben-Lulu.

The Israeli military had ordered an investigation into the beating by the group of soldiers during a confrontation last Friday in the Jalazoun refugee camp, near the West Bank town of Ramallah.

Read more: http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-courtmartials-soldiers-who-beat-palestinian-man/

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
23. Newsflash, shira, this is the mindset of Likud, the right wing now in power, and the mindless sheep
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:21 PM
Jun 2015

that voted for them. That's modern day Israeli RW Zionism.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
24. So the mindset of Likud is to court-marshall & hold soldiers accountable....
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jun 2015

....for their actions?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
25. It's the mindset of the RW, and their sheep supporters to look at Palestinians like animals.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jun 2015

Face it, and this is an uncomfortable fact that you will have to acknowledge: without that video those soldiers would have walked.

They were caught this time, but next time the animals, the "little snakes" as Ayelet Shaked calls them, will still be beaten, or shot or dead.

That's the mindset of RW, colonial, apartheid Zionism. Live with it.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
26. You seem disappointed the IDF did the right thing by....
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:05 PM
Jun 2015

...prosecuting the offenders.

Or "not fooled at all" about the IDF pretending to do the right thing....

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
27. No, shira. Brutally realistic.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:15 PM
Jun 2015

Israel just patted itself on the back saying that they did nothing wrong by killing four children on a Gaza beach.

Israel's politician are calling for annexing the West Bank.

Netanyahu stated before the world that there will be no Palestinians state.


And all the while Palestinians are beaten, their property stolen or destroyed, some of them are killed in cold blood.


That's the brutal realism about Israel. These guys were caught. There was evidence. The vast majority of time the evidence is, not available, buried or falls down the memory hole.

The IDF did the right thing because they had no choice, but next time that four more Palestinian children, or the hundreds dead lest we forget, are blown apart the IDF can pat itself on the back and take a victory lap.


And the only fools here are the ones that believe in Israeli justice for all.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. according to Haaretz and Times of Israel who are both linked to in this story
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:52 AM
Jun 2015

in fact most MondoWeiss pieces use outside sources

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Those sources do actual reporting
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 07:52 AM
Jun 2015

Mondoweiss takes the story from the other sources and packages it into propaganda (which is what they usually do). They take out the parts that don't fit the propaganda. Focus on the parts that do and then add their own little snarky comments to underline their propaganda message.

Israel National News often does the same thing.

Mosby

(16,422 posts)
14. He's not following orders
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 05:29 PM
Jun 2015

and blocking traffic.

14 seconds in he grabs the IDF guy's gun.

In the US he would have been shot dead.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. BS at 14 seconds his hand is not on the gun nor at any time before or after
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 05:37 PM
Jun 2015

he appears to be raising his hand

next..........

Mosby

(16,422 posts)
16. your splitting hairs
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jun 2015

You can clearly see the guy grab the rifle and hold it for a second somewhere around 11-18 seconds in.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
17. again BS at no time did he have his hand on the gun and infact at 18 seconds the IDF soldier strikes
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jun 2015

him with said gun for the second time here is the video posted by Haaretz again

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
19. one shot shows a gloved hand the 1 second later shows an ungloved hand
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jun 2015

are you really trying to pull this? ah what happened to the glove in that 1 second

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
20. you failed to completely hide the Times of Israel stamp on your 1st shot which you claim is Haaretz
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:20 PM
Jun 2015

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
32. There was no attempt to take the gun either
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

Just three days after three IDF soldiers were sentenced for the allegedly unnecessary beating of a Palestinian being arrested during clashes near Ramallah, a full video of the incident was released by Palestinian sources Wednesday, showing no definitive proof that the Palestinian civilian attempted to take one of the soldier's weapons as the IDF claimed after initial investigations.

An original video of the incident, which erupted on social media on Saturday, showed the Palestinian being thrown to the ground and hit in the face by one of the soldiers, but it did not reveal what led to the heavy-handed arrest, leaving room for speculation that the soldiers were justified at least in making the arrest.

The clip released on Wednesday however, documents in full, the curses exchanged between the soldiers and the Palestinian as well as one moment in which the civilian brushes up against a soldier, but does not seem to make an aggressive grab for his weapon.

In addition to the questionable arrest tactics seen in the original clip, the full video shows one soldier forcing the Palestinian to the ground by hitting him over the back of the head with a rifle.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4669794,00.html



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