LGBT
Related: About this forumGay marriage issue reaches [Supreme] Court
Placing before the Supreme Court another huge cultural controversy, the House of Representatives Republican leaders on Friday afternoon asked the Justices to uphold the constitutionality of the 1996 federal law that limits all federal programs and benefits for marriage to legal unions of a man and a woman. This could set the stage for the Justices to take up the issue of same-sex marriage in their next Term, opening October 1. The new petition is here; the case does not yet have a docket number assigned.
This case calls out for the Courts review, the petition argued. The First Circuit Court, it added, applied an entirely novel form of scrutiny that cannot be reconciled with the approach of this Court and that of ten other circuits. Thus, the decision below invalidates an act of Congress, conflicts with the decisions of this Court and numerous other courts of appeals, and embraces an entirely novel approach to constitutional equal protection analysis. It is hard to imagine a stronger candidate for this Courts review.
This is the first same-sex marriage case to reach the Court in a new round of lawsuits from coast to coast, with many of the cases focused on the law at issue in the new House GOP petition: the Defense of Marriage Act, passed with overwhelming majorities in the House and Senate and signed into law by President Clinton in 1996. Soon to be filed at the Court is a case from California, testing the constitutionality of Proposition 8, the voter-approved ban on marriage for gays and lesbians in that state.
Proposition 8? has been struck down by a federal appeals court, as has DOMA in the case newly filed at the Supreme Court. The California measure is a flat ban on same-sex marriage, but it is restricted to one state. DOMA applies nationwide, and its section at issue in the new appeal does not seek to ban such marriages, but, when they are allowed under a states own laws, denies all federal benefits to such couples.
Read the rest at: http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/06/gay-marriage-issue-reaches-court/#more-148247
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Note to some that seem to slam Sotomayor and Kagan at every turn because they favored other people that they thought would hand them Gay Marriage, when, not if, WHEN Kagan and Sotomayor vote to strike down Prop 8, I expect a small apology at the very least.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)She has said there is no Constitutional right to same-sex marriage, no matter how much some people on here want to deny that she ever said that or that our Democratic President sat idly by when she said it. Or that 99% of DU cheered her on as she said it.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)If Sotomayor votes to strike DOMA down, I feel vindicated.
If Kagan does not vote to strike it down, than you win.
If both vote to strike it down, then we can both feel good in that we have two justices on the court doing the right thing.
and finally, if either one does not vote to strike it down, then they can deserve hatred and scorn,
and yes, my Puerto Rican ass will hate on Sotomayor if she does not do the right thing.
Sound like a plan?
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)Her "moderate" tendencies lie more toward the economic arena; she's pretty liberal socially.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Because Thomas is Scalia's lapdog and will vote with him every single time.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)I'd be shocked if ANY of the other 4 voted against striking DOMA down.
HillWilliam
(3,310 posts)then count on Fat Tony to go you one worse. There's a box seat in hell waiting for him.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)My guess? DOMA is overturned 6-3 - with Kennedy & Roberts joining the liberals.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)5-4 if we are lucky, Kennedy will probably use this as an excuse to become one of the greatest figures in the gay rights struggle. He wrote the majority opinion on legalizing gay sex as well.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)But on this issue? Well...
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/4/95326.shtml
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)5-4 to strike down DOMA. Voting to kill it will be Sotomayor, Breyer, Ginsburg, Kennedy, and Roberts. Kagan, Scalia, Alito, and Thomas vote to uphold it.
I hope I'm wrong and Kagan turns around and votes for us, but her statements suggest otherwise.
HillWilliam
(3,310 posts)It's a stone fact Thomas was never troubled with an original thought.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I tend to think they can't and the court will say, F off, this is not the proper route for an appeal.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)They may choose to take it up or may choose to reject it at this time.
The best thing we have going for us is that after large landmark rulings like the healthcare ruling... They tend to sit back a while to let things settle before taking up a new large issue. We'll see.