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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:18 AM Jun 2012

Gay marriage issue reaches [Supreme] Court

Placing before the Supreme Court another huge cultural controversy, the House of Representatives’ Republican leaders on Friday afternoon asked the Justices to uphold the constitutionality of the 1996 federal law that limits all federal programs and benefits for marriage to legal unions of a man and a woman. This could set the stage for the Justices to take up the issue of same-sex marriage in their next Term, opening October 1. The new petition is here; the case does not yet have a docket number assigned.

“This case calls out for the Court’s review,” the petition argued. The First Circuit Court, it added, applied “an entirely novel form of scrutiny that cannot be reconciled with the approach of this Court and that of ten other circuits. Thus, the decision below invalidates an act of Congress, conflicts with the decisions of this Court and numerous other courts of appeals, and embraces an entirely novel approach to constitutional equal protection analysis. It is hard to imagine a stronger candidate for this Court’s review.”

This is the first same-sex marriage case to reach the Court in a new round of lawsuits from coast to coast, with many of the cases focused on the law at issue in the new House GOP petition: the Defense of Marriage Act, passed with overwhelming majorities in the House and Senate and signed into law by President Clinton in 1996. Soon to be filed at the Court is a case from California, testing the constitutionality of “Proposition 8,” the voter-approved ban on marriage for gays and lesbians in that state.

“Proposition 8? has been struck down by a federal appeals court, as has DOMA in the case newly filed at the Supreme Court. The California measure is a flat ban on same-sex marriage, but it is restricted to one state. DOMA applies nationwide, and its section at issue in the new appeal does not seek to ban such marriages, but, when they are allowed under a state’s own laws, denies all federal benefits to such couples.

Read the rest at: http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/06/gay-marriage-issue-reaches-court/#more-148247

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Gay marriage issue reaches [Supreme] Court (Original Post) PoliticAverse Jun 2012 OP
Now let's see who has real courage DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #1
Both Kagan and Sotomayor have been dynamite. Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #2
IF Kagan votes to strike it down. Pab Sungenis Jul 2012 #11
OK Pab, I'll shake on that DonCoquixote Jul 2012 #13
I'm pretty sure Sotomayor will vote to strike down DOMA. Pab Sungenis Jul 2012 #14
My prediction, 8-1 will strike down DOMA. Bet on it. nt Firebrand Gary Jun 2012 #3
Do you anticipate Alito/Kennedy to be the lone vote? Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #4
I think Alito will be the hold out. Firebrand Gary Jun 2012 #5
Imagine the wingnuttiest, most vicious, inhumane way to rule HillWilliam Jun 2012 #7
And then watch Thomas follow like a lemming... Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #8
Why are we suddenly counting Roberts as a liberal because of one ruling? Kurska Jul 2012 #9
I don't think Roberts is a liberal... Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #10
My suspicion? Pab Sungenis Jul 2012 #12
From your lips to G'd's ears HillWilliam Jul 2012 #15
Anyone know? Can those Repukes actually do this? joeybee12 Jun 2012 #6
The court can decide what to do. Fearless Jul 2012 #16

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. Now let's see who has real courage
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:20 AM
Jun 2012

Note to some that seem to slam Sotomayor and Kagan at every turn because they favored other people that they thought would hand them Gay Marriage, when, not if, WHEN Kagan and Sotomayor vote to strike down Prop 8, I expect a small apology at the very least.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
11. IF Kagan votes to strike it down.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 06:00 AM
Jul 2012

She has said there is no Constitutional right to same-sex marriage, no matter how much some people on here want to deny that she ever said that or that our Democratic President sat idly by when she said it. Or that 99% of DU cheered her on as she said it.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
13. OK Pab, I'll shake on that
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 06:08 AM
Jul 2012

If Sotomayor votes to strike DOMA down, I feel vindicated.
If Kagan does not vote to strike it down, than you win.
If both vote to strike it down, then we can both feel good in that we have two justices on the court doing the right thing.
and finally, if either one does not vote to strike it down, then they can deserve hatred and scorn,
and yes, my Puerto Rican ass will hate on Sotomayor if she does not do the right thing.

Sound like a plan?

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
14. I'm pretty sure Sotomayor will vote to strike down DOMA.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 06:14 AM
Jul 2012

Her "moderate" tendencies lie more toward the economic arena; she's pretty liberal socially.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
4. Do you anticipate Alito/Kennedy to be the lone vote?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:15 AM
Jun 2012

Because Thomas is Scalia's lapdog and will vote with him every single time.

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
7. Imagine the wingnuttiest, most vicious, inhumane way to rule
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:10 AM
Jun 2012

then count on Fat Tony to go you one worse. There's a box seat in hell waiting for him.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
8. And then watch Thomas follow like a lemming...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jun 2012

My guess? DOMA is overturned 6-3 - with Kennedy & Roberts joining the liberals.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
9. Why are we suddenly counting Roberts as a liberal because of one ruling?
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:10 AM
Jul 2012

5-4 if we are lucky, Kennedy will probably use this as an excuse to become one of the greatest figures in the gay rights struggle. He wrote the majority opinion on legalizing gay sex as well.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
12. My suspicion?
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 06:03 AM
Jul 2012

5-4 to strike down DOMA. Voting to kill it will be Sotomayor, Breyer, Ginsburg, Kennedy, and Roberts. Kagan, Scalia, Alito, and Thomas vote to uphold it.

I hope I'm wrong and Kagan turns around and votes for us, but her statements suggest otherwise.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
6. Anyone know? Can those Repukes actually do this?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:15 AM
Jun 2012

I tend to think they can't and the court will say, F off, this is not the proper route for an appeal.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
16. The court can decide what to do.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:07 AM
Jul 2012

They may choose to take it up or may choose to reject it at this time.

The best thing we have going for us is that after large landmark rulings like the healthcare ruling... They tend to sit back a while to let things settle before taking up a new large issue. We'll see.

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