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Well the black streaks are part of the process Warpy Mar 2013 #1
But should I be treating it with something every year? nt Walk away Mar 2013 #2
I used the grey stain on a deck Warpy Mar 2013 #3
That seems like a plan...how long have you had your fence? Walk away Mar 2013 #4
Deck, not fence, and I lived with it for ten years. Warpy Mar 2013 #5
Stain it Wash. state Desk Jet Mar 2013 #7
we treated our deck with Stephanie Miller's sponsor "Cedarcide" then just hit it with a oil based NMDemDist2 Mar 2013 #6
Beautiful fence warrior1 Mar 2013 #8
If you want it to go with a natural silver-gray look, use bleaching stain. Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #9
Holy Cow! This is exactly what I have been looking for but didn't know existed. Walk away Mar 2013 #10
If it were me, I would go with straight bleaching oil. Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #11
OK, first I power wash it with the bleach and water then rinse it with water and then paint it... Walk away Mar 2013 #12
You don't need to powerwash with the bleach Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #13
Thanks...and thanks everybody. I'll post photos as I go along. nt Walk away Mar 2013 #14
After thinking about it a bit...I think you'll probably get longer wear out of each cycle Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #15
Lokks like you need to shim up the garage there on one side.... Hotler Apr 2013 #16
No, it's straight. The photo is tilted. Walk away Apr 2013 #17
Here are the photos of the finished project! Walk away Sep 2013 #18
That is really attractive. Worried senior Sep 2013 #19
Thanks...It is mostly lindseed oil with a little pigment and... Walk away Sep 2013 #20

Warpy

(111,537 posts)
1. Well the black streaks are part of the process
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:12 PM
Mar 2013

and it looks like hell for a long time with the color of the wood showing for an inch or two under the horizontal boards. It's also the only way to get that natural silver gray weathering eventually.

If you want instant gratification, you can use a grey stain that approximates the color you'll get after a few years of ugly. If you decide to do this, rent a sprayer. Painting a fence that size would take forever.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
2. But should I be treating it with something every year? nt
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:21 PM
Mar 2013

Warpy

(111,537 posts)
3. I used the grey stain on a deck
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:46 PM
Mar 2013

and never bothered treating it since I wanted it to weather. It pretty much worked, too.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
4. That seems like a plan...how long have you had your fence?
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:11 PM
Mar 2013

Warpy

(111,537 posts)
5. Deck, not fence, and I lived with it for ten years.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:22 PM
Mar 2013

I wasn't all that concerned with making it waterproof because 2x6 lumber was not going to rot easily.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
7. Stain it
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:20 AM
Mar 2013

use a good quality stain -do in July or August. It's best if you spray it-you can rent the sprayer at tool rentals. They will tell you how to clean the unit when you are done. The fence must be completely dry-ed out. That is why July/August is the best months to do it.

NMDemDist2

(49,313 posts)
6. we treated our deck with Stephanie Miller's sponsor "Cedarcide" then just hit it with a oil based
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:14 AM
Mar 2013

stain 3 years ago.

it still looks great, but it is pressure treated pine.

I'm thinking that Cedarcide is good stuff. http://www.cedarcidestore.com/cedarproducts.html

no cracks, warps nothing in 3.5 years of baking hot summer and freezing cold winters.

i'm gonna pressure wash it this season and see if i need to hit it with another coat of stain, but it's just cuz it's dirty, not because it's breaking down.

not sure if that helps.....

edit to add, with a cedar fence, the stain probably wouldn't be necessary

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
8. Beautiful fence
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:56 PM
Mar 2013

and doggy!

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
9. If you want it to go with a natural silver-gray look, use bleaching stain.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:11 PM
Mar 2013

I don't know what VOC rules are where you live, but Cabot's makes a very good bleaching oil, and also a weathering stain. Both can be used as is, or intermixed.

http://www.cabotstain.com/products/product/Bleaching-Oil.html

http://www.cabotstain.com/pdf/weathering-stain-6244.pdf

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
10. Holy Cow! This is exactly what I have been looking for but didn't know existed.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:42 AM
Mar 2013

It's going to cost a pretty penny but it will look awesome! I want to do the mix of the 2 products to get the silver gray right away! I am psyched! I'm going to call my handy person this week and see if he is up to it. I know I have to wait for the summer but I'll have to start saving now to pay him and buy the product.
Thanks!

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
11. If it were me, I would go with straight bleaching oil.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:28 PM
Mar 2013

It contains a very small amount of gray pigment so you get some effect right away, although it is pigment that is supplying the initial weathered color. The bleaching oil takes a few months to actually bleach the color out of the surface layers of the wood (depending on the exposure). A wash with a 20-25% bleach/water solution followed by a a thorough rinse with clean water, and allowing the wood to dry prior to application of the oil, will accelerate the process and make for a more uniform initial appearance.

Something to keep in mind:

Stains and bleaching oils need to be renewed periodically (generally every 2-3 years, depending on exposure and what type of look you want to maintain). I suppose you could go longer, but UV rays (sunlight) will degrade oil-based films over time, thus allowing water to enter and do its damage. Your Cedar is naturally very resistant to the damaging effects of water and insects, but the same components of that particular wood which provide that resistance are also what causes discoloration (tanin bleeding) over time. For the best long-term results, a wash with bleach solution (or commercial Wood Brightener) every few years (as your specific situation determines) followed by a clean water rinse, and reapplication of bleaching oil/weathering stain, will be in order.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
12. OK, first I power wash it with the bleach and water then rinse it with water and then paint it...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:21 PM
Mar 2013

with bleaching oil after it dries a few days. Then I repeat it every 2 or three years (hopefully 3). And I will have a beautiful silvergray fence that last me 15 years???

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
13. You don't need to powerwash with the bleach
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:56 PM
Mar 2013

Power washing involves high pressure spray; simply apply the bleach/wood brightener with a hudson-type sprayer, let it sit for about 15-20 minutes (but don't let it dry) and then rinse with clean water. Some painters will scrub the bleach in a bit with a stiff broom, but I've found that it works just fine without that step.

...a beautiful silvergray fence that last me 15 years???


That is the way it is designed to work. Over time, the cycles should become longer as the tanin levels in the wood decrease. At some point the washing will primarily be dealing with mildew, etc., and the deteriorated surface fibers of the wood. If you want, you can switch to the weathering stain at any point in the cycle. It is a semi-transparent product, but the pigment in it provides greater UV protection.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
14. Thanks...and thanks everybody. I'll post photos as I go along. nt
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 07:30 PM
Mar 2013

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
15. After thinking about it a bit...I think you'll probably get longer wear out of each cycle
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:23 PM
Mar 2013

probably more like 3-5 years. A great deal depends on your climate.

Good luck, and remember to have fun with it.

Hotler

(11,514 posts)
16. Lokks like you need to shim up the garage there on one side....
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:44 PM
Apr 2013

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
17. No, it's straight. The photo is tilted.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 08:39 PM
Apr 2013

I just had the garage structurally rehabilitated and a new roof put on it. Ninety one years ago when it was built, they must have had tiny little cars. It's only big enough for a tool shed and lawn furniture storage.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
18. Here are the photos of the finished project!
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 01:56 PM
Sep 2013

I used 50% Cabot Bleaching Oil and 50% Cabot Weathering Stain. It came out a translucent silver gray that will bleach the wood gray over an 8 month period. (we hope)

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Worried senior

(1,328 posts)
19. That is really attractive.
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:46 PM
Sep 2013

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
20. Thanks...It is mostly lindseed oil with a little pigment and...
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:22 PM
Sep 2013

a bleaching agent. It preserves the wood and bleaches it silver gray over an eight month period. One of the folks in this forum recommended the combination of products.

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