independent of the police or armies.

Very interesting.

Just a caps lock check. Carry on.

trying to mislead?

6,220 murders were committed with handguns.

which is 49.1% of murders (12,664) in 2011.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

To admit you want to ban all handguns. All we hear about is the infanticidal black rifle with a 30 round classroom clip, and a shoulder thing that goes up, being sprayed from the hip with more thrusts per squeeze.

Who now dear friend is trying to mislead?

You know -- the attempts to ban or otherwise control the AR-15? Which is a ... wait for it ... rifle.

Mislead? Not at all.

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Some pro-control statistics refer to overall firearm deaths and lead the reader/listener to conclude that banning certain rifles, such as the AR-15 would make a difference. In plain fact, your reply here helps illustrate my point. Weapons other than rifles are used incredibly more often in the commission of a crime. With that in mind, new laws regarding rifles will be largely ineffective in the fight against crime.

While I am against the death penalty, I strongly favor removing folks with a history of violent convictions, pending charges or open warrants for the same from the pool of permitted buyers. Most of the effect of criminal laws is not in prevention but conviction. Most laws provide criteria to make both prosecution and jury decisions more straightforward.

The current existence of AR type rifles (and others) with and without the various "assault weapon" attributes and magazines of various capacities have been sold for years. Those in criminal possession will be mostly unaffected by new laws. Trying to prevent murder with clever laws aimed at tools used in less than one crime in 25, is a distraction and a waste.

Most handguns accept magazines with capacities of 7 to 17 rounds. Handguns are ideal for personal protection because they are compact and easier to use in indoors. This same attribute makes a handgun (with certain notable exceptions)...



...easier to conceal which criminals may find useful. Concealability is sought by millions of non-criminal citizens and the CCW permit was designed with the idea that lawful citizens be enabled to defend themselves. Most states require those that carry concealed to have a permit. Those states often mandate certain standards of knowledge and skill to obtain one.

Serrated edge that can't cut cheese. Is that a picatinny rail (illegal under California's Salted Butter Ban), or a pilonidal cyst scratcher (legal in most states if under 1.5&quot ? No one's had a buy-back for these devices or I would have gladly sold my set, and put a down-payment on an approved smooth bore spreader. And I can't even sell the damned things in Georgia due, you know, to my legal use of this weapon.