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I think you are blowing smoke, jpak.

Fast and Furious, launched in autumn 2009, allowed illegal guns to travel, or “walk,” into Mexico so federal agents could track Mexican drug cartel activity. The problem is that the U.S. lost track of hundreds of guns. Some wound up at the scenes of drug cartel murders, and even next to the body of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, who was shot and killed while patrolling the Arizona desert last year.

Fast and Furious was run out of the Phoenix office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), a federal law enforcement agency within the U.S. Department of Justice. There is startling evidence that a similar scheme could be occurring in Texas. According to an October 2011 investigation by Houston NBC affiliate KPRC, employees at a Houston gun shop named Carter’s Country alleged that they were asked by Houston ATF agents in 2006 to sell guns to suspicious purchasers and notify ATF so agents could observe the purchases. Carter’s Country employees say they complied with the request, adding that at least 6 of the 16 times they called during a suspicious sale, ATF agents never showed, but told Carter’s Country to make the sale anyway.

These sales continued into December 2010, when a Carter’s Country salesman became the subject of a Houston grand jury investigation due to a criminal complaint filed by ATF. That prompted Carter’s Country to pull the plug and hire high-powered defense attorney Dick DeGuerin.

ATF officials refused to be interviewed on-camera by KPRC, but told reporter Robert Arnold that Carter’s Country may have “misconstrued” the bureau’s request for help as a gun-walking operation. DeGuerin and Carter’s Country stuck to their story, and in March 2011, on the heels of the shooting death of Laredo Immigration and Customs Enforcement special agent Jaime Zapata in Mexico, DeGuerin received word that ATF was dropping the case. “We stood to embarrass them, meaning the ATF, for being hypocritical, two-faced, and turning against the very people who were trying to help them,” DeGuerin said.

http://www.texasobserver.org/authors/christomlinson/item/18206-did-the-us-government-supply-the-gun-that-killed-jaime-zapata


Gun Dealer: 'ATF Approved Sales to Mexican Gun Runners'

"Let me tell you something about Carter's Country. They have been co-operating with ATF from the get go," says attorney Dick Deguerin who represents Carter's Country owner, Bill Carter.

Deguerin says the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms asked Carter's Country to complete transactions, even when sales people strongly suspected the weapons were headed to Mexican drug gangs.

"They were told to go through with what they considered to be questionable sales. They were told to go through with sales of three or more assault rifles at the same time or five or more 9 millimeter guns at the same time or a young Hispanic male paying in cash. It's all profiling, but they went through with it," said Deguerin.

"They reported them promptly, either while the transaction was going on or soon there after. They did this for months and months and months. Went through with the sales because the ATF told them to go through with the sales,"

"If the ATF had used the information that Carter's Country developed for them they could have stopped these guns from going across the border," insists Deguerin.


http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/101213-gun-dealer-atf-approved-sales-to-mexican-gun-runners

As I said in a previous thread - Dick Deguerin, a Democrat, and a very liberal one at that.

sarcastic fake Southern accent is offensive region bashing flamebait. If the OP is genuinely interested in sparking a civil conversation, he should edit the deliberate insults out of his post...

Take your own advice: Keep it at home.

even when not. What is even worse is your guilt by association. Associating us (many of us who either were kids, not supporters of Maddox et al, not in the south at that time, or some combination of all three. I was all of the above) with Maddox and the Klan.

Dude, Maddox is dead.

How long must we endure this?

...wise up and use the tool the DU admins gave you!

What's your point? The fact is there are a lot of racist, redneck fools in the south and most of them are big into guns.

To allow a few irrational Democrats to parade around with them in public, means we have to let right wing gun nuts -- who'd not hesitate to shoot someone if given the flimsiest excuse -- carry them. Why do you think right wingers support all the stupid gun laws which expand the number of guns, type of guns, and places guns can be carried? The gun shops were full here with folks stocking up to "take their country back" when Obama was elected.

wasn't your intent, what was?

You'd find it quite easy... if you ever actually tried it.

Again with the untruths...as you posted on another thread, the memory hole in the gun forum (group) claims another victim.

NO ONE here has said that there are "no straw buyers and gun runners in Texas", they have said that none of the full auto weapons, rocket launchers, tripod mounted machine guns are coming from the gun shops or gun shows in Texas. Do try to keep up.

onths before he purchased the gun that killed Zapata, leading them to question ATF surveillance tactics and to suspect a Texas-based operation similar to Operation Fast and Furious, a sting operation run by the United States in which more than 2,000 guns were allowed to "walk" illegally into Mexico; only 600 of them have been recovered, the other 1,400 are still at large."

...and none of the straw buyers are in custody.