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Once again save money while being safe (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 OP
It's important to keep your guns secured. SecularMotion Aug 2015 #1
yet more kids die drinking Drano gejohnston Aug 2015 #2
Or those diswasher pods... ileus Aug 2015 #8
I think a better question sarisataka Aug 2015 #3
What? Cooperate with the enemy? Why, I never! Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #4
We have seen sarisataka Aug 2015 #5
NRA programs aren't effective, therefore no credit. beardown Aug 2015 #7
FWIW, The NRA is doing the National Guard training for free n/t DonP Aug 2015 #9
I infer you agree with the need for low cost firearm security... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #6
I use two pistol safes for my EDC and HD pistols. ileus Aug 2015 #10
I would slide a $20 under the meds discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #11
Not a bad idea..... ileus Aug 2015 #12
 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
1. It's important to keep your guns secured.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:28 PM
Aug 2015
Gun deaths involving children are devastating. The NRA has no idea what to say about them.

As the National Rifle Association’s annual conference hits Nashville this weekend with 70,000 expected attendees, the organization has good reason to be upbeat. For another year, it has succeeded in stalling legislative attempts at moderate gun controls, rolling back existing state regulations and winning media battles. But there’s a looming question that should be seriously concerning the NRA and its supporters: how to reconcile the organization’s agenda with new evidence on the prevalence of gun accidents involving children.

Over the past year, new studies and media reports have documented America’s extraordinary number of child-involved shootings. These occur when a child happens upon a gun, or is left alone with one, and ends up shooting themselves or another person. Such disasters result in hundreds of child fatalities and have made American children nine times more likely to die in gun accidents than children anywhere else in the developed world. These deaths pose a massive challenge for the NRA. They demonstrate fairly conclusively that guns cannot be both safe and ubiquitous; the inevitable consequence of widespread gun ownership is a never-ending series of tragedies involving children. But, desperate to insist there’s nothing wrong, the NRA has proved itself totally incapable of responding to the problem.

The stories are endless and gruesome. A toddler shoots an infant while they are left alone in a car. A five-year-old boy shoots a three-year-old girl. And so on, ad infinitum. In Texas last month, the sheriff of Houston pleaded despairingly with the public after three children were shot dead in four days. And in widely reported Idaho incident, a two-year-old shot his mother to death in a Walmart after finding a gun in her handbag.

These cases change the terms of the gun control debate. Ordinarily whenever America’s extraordinary level of gun violence is brought up, usually after a mass killing of newly shocking savagery, the NRA offers its well-honed reply: For every bad guy with a gun, there should be a good guy with a gun. It’s the people, not the guns. These slogans, with their emphasis on personal responsibility, have been tremendously effective. But the child-involved shootings are much harder to explain away, since they don’t allow for such facile moral narratives. Talk of good guys and bad guys loses all meaning when a toddler has shot his baby brother.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/04/09/deaths-of-children-are-the-most-devastating-effect-of-our-gun-culture-the-nra-has-no-idea-what-to-say-about-them/

sarisataka

(18,655 posts)
3. I think a better question
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

Is why not a single one of the "gun safety" organizations has a program to address this matter.

The NSSF gives away gun locks. http://www.projectchildsafe.org/ The NRA has many safety classes. One may debate the effectiveness of such classes but the "gun safety" organizations don't even do that much.

beardown

(363 posts)
7. NRA programs aren't effective, therefore no credit.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:18 PM
Aug 2015

Heard that per the NRA programs. Because they aren't 100 percent effective, they don't count.

On that basis, I'm ripping the seat belts out of my cars because I knew people that wore them and died in car accidents anyway.

There's another close by thread here about the NRA offering gun safety (something like that) to a State's National Guard and getting negative comments because why does that NG offer money to the NRA? So no safety training is better than working with the NRA to provide the training?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
6. I infer you agree with the need for low cost firearm security...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 04:01 PM
Aug 2015

...and can't miss an opportunity to smear the NRA.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
10. I use two pistol safes for my EDC and HD pistols.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:48 PM
Aug 2015

One is actually a small 2cft 98# safe that I keep 5 of my secondary SD/HD pistols in. The second is a pistol safe that I keep my primary HD pistol and 2 of my EDCs in.

The rest of my pistols are in the main safe with the rifles and shotguns.


I always leave a bottle of pain meds on top of the easy to find safe to help thieves (typically pillheads) grab and go easier.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
12. Not a bad idea.....
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:57 PM
Aug 2015

My wife used to insist on locking up the pain meds in my pistol safe, then one night I told her I'd rather them steal the bottles of pills instead of my beloved pistols.


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