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Related: About this forumErich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Doesn't care for President Obama, does he?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)He wants to go from being the candidate that nobody black ever heard of (despite being in the Senate for 25 years) to the candidate that black folks openly despise????!
BERNIE SANDERS -- SERIOUSLY, man
sheshe2
(84,100 posts)That is a possibility, or some VERY bad advisers.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)that's the question!
sheshe2
(84,100 posts)One Two Three strikes they're out in the old ball game.
Number23
(24,544 posts)and others don't really want to go in there.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026898029
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)So the fact that there are a handful around DU that thinks this is the Best Thing EVAH!!!1one just confirms what all the rest of have known for a loooooooong time.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)This is hilarious:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6899069
87. Indeed.
If part of Bernies invest in America instead of wall st agenda were to include kicking NASA an extra couple billion dollars a year, we could probably add Dr. Tyson to that list as well.
=)
Number23
(24,544 posts)even if we completely DISAGREE with what said Negro stands for!!1
Although I have to admit, I am a huge fan of NDT.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)I do believe that poster thinks that Michael Eric Dyson is Neil deGrasse Tyson and that a bit of NASA funding will end the former's feud with Dr. West.
Funny and offensive rolled up into one embarrassingly dismissive package.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)I've twice tried to suggest that might be an optimistic reading of the situation, but, alas, there is no consciousness like false consciousness.
JI7
(89,289 posts)West endorsing Sanders will get Sanders black voters.
Response to JI7 (Reply #7)
freshwest This message was self-deleted by its author.
Number23
(24,544 posts)And if anything, this will have the completely ADVERSE affect of whatever Sanders is trying to go for. It will prove beyond all shadow of all doubt that the man is 100% CLUELESS with no chance of hope or salvation when it comes to race matters. And for a man who's campaign is right now constantly being dogged by allegations he doesn't know or care about the black experience, this is the LAST THING HE SHOULD DO.
Please GOD don't let him do this.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)I actually like Sanders and can see myself voting for him if he's still around for the CA primary--excepting Webb, I like all of them, really-- but holy god it's a terrible tactic that's sure to alienate people.
Spazito
(50,645 posts)if it does, Sanders would lose a lot of my respect, a hell of a lot. It would be a middle finger to the President and those who support him as well as showing a complete ignorance of how many in the black community feels from what I have read.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and the white liberal's go to guy.
Spazito
(50,645 posts)I have a big fat bruise on my chin after reading that thread and seeing the recs, my jaw may never be the same.
The complete disconnection from reality by some boggles my mind sometimes, it really does.
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026898029
I'd heard and seen this guy before but need your education to explain the deep meaning of this:
Slavoj Zizek "Racist Jokes!" (Must Watch)
He talks in anoter videos against political correctness enslaving people for conservatives, I think, then explores here 'progressive racism,' with a few comments about women that would not fly very well.
Please tell me what is he really talking about? He seems to be nice... umm. He's from a different culture so this may have a much different meaning than it does to us (he's against multiculturalism, too) but I can't see West as the same. Please enlighten me here.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)and once took a class he co-taught. He's deranged and brilliant, but few people can make Lacanian psychoanalysis, Hegel, and Marxism so compelling. He seems to deliberately misrepresent some of my favorite philosophers, so I have to ignore him sometimes, though.
What Zizek is describing here is the way "racist" jokes--I'd say that, from an American perspective, he's really talking about nationalist jokes--form a kind of social cohesion across ethnic or national boundaries. They are, for him, examples of the ways ideology and power are laid bare: becaue they cut so close to the bone of the unspeakable about (ethnic or national) identity, they allow progress to happen by creating bonds across difference. (He tells some similar stories in, I think, his book The Plague of Fantasies, but I haven't read it recently so I can't remember it well enough to give a more thorough account of it.)
This is a riff, really, on Freud's ideas from Jokes and Their Relati0n to the Unconscious--Zizek's roots are in Lacanian psychoanalysis; Lacan's psychoanalytic theory was founded on a return to Freud, so his disciples, like Lacan himself, use Freudian tropes as a springboard. And what Freud said about humor is that it permits people to say things that are repressed parts of the social unconscious, or what Zizek here calls "ideology."
The best examples I can think of here are people like Dave Chappelle and Sarah Silverman, whose jokes express cultural truths but, in expressing them, mock them by laying bare the ideology underlying them.
Number23
(24,544 posts)which would be -- THE VERY SAME PEOPLE THAT SANDERS WOULD NEED TO WIN IN THE FIRST FREAKING PLACE.
Bernie is hopefully not stupid enough to do this. How in the hell would he even be trying to get Obama's endorsement -- and you better believe EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT in that race wants that man campaigning for him -- when he's got the man saying that the president "fears free black men" under his list of endorsements????
freshwest
(53,661 posts)sabrina 1
4. Bernie will not let him down. I know he feels burned by Obama but Bernie is not the kind to forget
those who supported him.
'I love Brother Bernie'! Love that, we all do.
It's shameful how some Dems here have slammed West. But that's what happens when you tell the truth.
And~
Cornel West
will be the downfall of HRC.
Once portions of the AA community peel off, there's no path to recovery for Hillary
Clueless on DU. Surprised, no.
Number23
(24,544 posts)from that person.
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)JustAnotherGen
(32,053 posts)But not by Bernie . . .
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)eom
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)now back to the 1985 syfy movie "My Science Project"