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Uuuum~ (Original Post) sheshe2 Jun 2015 OP
Thought he went under the bus years ago. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #1
West hates Obama so I am sure he hates Hillary too. leftofcool Jun 2015 #2
Yup. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #3
Holy Shit on a shingle. Jesus K Alooicious Christ, has Bernie Sanders lost his fucking mind??? Number23 Jun 2015 #4
". Holy Shit on a shingle. Jesus K Alooicious Christ, has Bernie Sanders lost his fucking mind???" sheshe2 Jun 2015 #8
But will he and Tarvis get tickets to the Ball ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #14
Tickets to the ball game, maybe. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #20
Here's a better link. Some posters in this forum are blocked from the Sanders group Number23 Jun 2015 #5
Thanks. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #10
OMG! What a roasting! n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #21
I know. But that would have come as no surprise to people that know ANYTHING about black people Number23 Jun 2015 #22
I see 'em now, singing 'Pretty Fly for a White Guy.' Yes, I'm awful. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #25
I hadn't seen that thread. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #32
Yeah, we're so easily led we'll just keel over like dominoes the more Negro endorsers he gets Number23 Jun 2015 #33
It's a twofer! OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #34
In the world of white liberals, West gives "street cred" with black folks tishaLA Jun 2015 #6
shows how clueless so many are.they are excited and think JI7 Jun 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2015 #23
I can't tell whether to lmao or cry. ANYONE that would think that this is a good thing is a moron Number23 Jun 2015 #9
I know, right? tishaLA Jun 2015 #11
I can't see it happening but... Spazito Jun 2015 #12
But West is Black and an intellectual ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #13
LOL... Spazito Jun 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2015 #24
Help Me! I followed the link by Number23 to see where it says Cornel West is our: freshwest Jun 2015 #28
I'm a big fan (and critic) of Zizek's work tishaLA Jun 2015 #31
It would most DEFINITELY be a middle finger to the president. And to those who support him Number23 Jun 2015 #18
Did West have a clue as to how he came off in that interview? n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #29
And~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #17
So dumb. So wrong. And so very, very typical Number23 Jun 2015 #19
Amen to that. n/t NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #27
We are being peeled off JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #30
And they are accusing HRC of being tone deaf... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #16
Hmmmmmm, interesting read Iliyah Jun 2015 #26

Number23

(24,544 posts)
4. Holy Shit on a shingle. Jesus K Alooicious Christ, has Bernie Sanders lost his fucking mind???
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jun 2015

He wants to go from being the candidate that nobody black ever heard of (despite being in the Senate for 25 years) to the candidate that black folks openly despise????!

BERNIE SANDERS -- SERIOUSLY, man

sheshe2

(84,100 posts)
8. ". Holy Shit on a shingle. Jesus K Alooicious Christ, has Bernie Sanders lost his fucking mind???"
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:03 PM
Jun 2015

That is a possibility, or some VERY bad advisers.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
22. I know. But that would have come as no surprise to people that know ANYTHING about black people
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:15 AM
Jun 2015

So the fact that there are a handful around DU that thinks this is the Best Thing EVAH!!!1one just confirms what all the rest of have known for a loooooooong time.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
32. I hadn't seen that thread.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:22 PM
Jun 2015

This is hilarious:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6899069

Volaris (2,406 posts)
87. Indeed.

If part of Bernies invest in America instead of wall st agenda were to include kicking NASA an extra couple billion dollars a year, we could probably add Dr. Tyson to that list as well.


=)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
33. Yeah, we're so easily led we'll just keel over like dominoes the more Negro endorsers he gets
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jun 2015

even if we completely DISAGREE with what said Negro stands for!!1

Although I have to admit, I am a huge fan of NDT.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
34. It's a twofer!
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:20 PM
Jun 2015

I do believe that poster thinks that Michael Eric Dyson is Neil deGrasse Tyson and that a bit of NASA funding will end the former's feud with Dr. West.

Funny and offensive rolled up into one embarrassingly dismissive package.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
6. In the world of white liberals, West gives "street cred" with black folks
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jun 2015

I've twice tried to suggest that might be an optimistic reading of the situation, but, alas, there is no consciousness like false consciousness.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
7. shows how clueless so many are.they are excited and think
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jun 2015

West endorsing Sanders will get Sanders black voters.

Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
9. I can't tell whether to lmao or cry. ANYONE that would think that this is a good thing is a moron
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:12 PM
Jun 2015

And if anything, this will have the completely ADVERSE affect of whatever Sanders is trying to go for. It will prove beyond all shadow of all doubt that the man is 100% CLUELESS with no chance of hope or salvation when it comes to race matters. And for a man who's campaign is right now constantly being dogged by allegations he doesn't know or care about the black experience, this is the LAST THING HE SHOULD DO.

Please GOD don't let him do this.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
11. I know, right?
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:17 PM
Jun 2015

I actually like Sanders and can see myself voting for him if he's still around for the CA primary--excepting Webb, I like all of them, really-- but holy god it's a terrible tactic that's sure to alienate people.

Spazito

(50,645 posts)
12. I can't see it happening but...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:28 PM
Jun 2015

if it does, Sanders would lose a lot of my respect, a hell of a lot. It would be a middle finger to the President and those who support him as well as showing a complete ignorance of how many in the black community feels from what I have read.

Spazito

(50,645 posts)
15. LOL...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:44 PM
Jun 2015

I have a big fat bruise on my chin after reading that thread and seeing the recs, my jaw may never be the same.

The complete disconnection from reality by some boggles my mind sometimes, it really does.

Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #13)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
28. Help Me! I followed the link by Number23 to see where it says Cornel West is our:
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:06 AM
Jun 2015
...Slavoj Žižek, but with far better hair and a sense of fashion...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026898029

I'd heard and seen this guy before but need your education to explain the deep meaning of this:



Slavoj Zizek "Racist Jokes!" (Must Watch)

He talks in anoter videos against political correctness enslaving people for conservatives, I think, then explores here 'progressive racism,' with a few comments about women that would not fly very well.

Please tell me what is he really talking about? He seems to be nice... umm. He's from a different culture so this may have a much different meaning than it does to us (he's against multiculturalism, too) but I can't see West as the same. Please enlighten me here.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
31. I'm a big fan (and critic) of Zizek's work
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:39 PM
Jun 2015

and once took a class he co-taught. He's deranged and brilliant, but few people can make Lacanian psychoanalysis, Hegel, and Marxism so compelling. He seems to deliberately misrepresent some of my favorite philosophers, so I have to ignore him sometimes, though.

What Zizek is describing here is the way "racist" jokes--I'd say that, from an American perspective, he's really talking about nationalist jokes--form a kind of social cohesion across ethnic or national boundaries. They are, for him, examples of the ways ideology and power are laid bare: becaue they cut so close to the bone of the unspeakable about (ethnic or national) identity, they allow progress to happen by creating bonds across difference. (He tells some similar stories in, I think, his book The Plague of Fantasies, but I haven't read it recently so I can't remember it well enough to give a more thorough account of it.)

This is a riff, really, on Freud's ideas from Jokes and Their Relati0n to the Unconscious--Zizek's roots are in Lacanian psychoanalysis; Lacan's psychoanalytic theory was founded on a return to Freud, so his disciples, like Lacan himself, use Freudian tropes as a springboard. And what Freud said about humor is that it permits people to say things that are repressed parts of the social unconscious, or what Zizek here calls "ideology."

The best examples I can think of here are people like Dave Chappelle and Sarah Silverman, whose jokes express cultural truths but, in expressing them, mock them by laying bare the ideology underlying them.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
18. It would most DEFINITELY be a middle finger to the president. And to those who support him
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jun 2015

which would be -- THE VERY SAME PEOPLE THAT SANDERS WOULD NEED TO WIN IN THE FIRST FREAKING PLACE.

Bernie is hopefully not stupid enough to do this. How in the hell would he even be trying to get Obama's endorsement -- and you better believe EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT in that race wants that man campaigning for him -- when he's got the man saying that the president "fears free black men" under his list of endorsements????

sheshe2

(84,100 posts)
17. And~
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jun 2015

sabrina 1
4. Bernie will not let him down. I know he feels burned by Obama but Bernie is not the kind to forget

those who supported him.

'I love Brother Bernie'! Love that, we all do.

It's shameful how some Dems here have slammed West. But that's what happens when you tell the truth.

And~

Cornel West

will be the downfall of HRC.

Once portions of the AA community peel off, there's no path to recovery for Hillary

Clueless on DU. Surprised, no.

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