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Related: About this forumGiancarlo Stanton sweepstakes
Lots of rumors and speculation on where the new home run king will end up. Teams said to be in the mix are the Red Sox, Cardinals, Giants and Phillies.
No mention of the Yankees through, thankfully. Like they need Stanton AND Judge!
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/11/16636514/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-trade-rumors-giancarlo-stanton-marlins-giants-phillies-red-sox-cardinals
VMA131Marine
(4,159 posts)They have only about $7 million in committed payroll next year. The end of his contract will likely suck though.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)the Giants would be thinking about pursuing him. They probably won't be relevant again anytime soon, and need to focus on building their farm.
Brother Buzz
(36,505 posts)and a competent third baseman (Pablo Sandoval ain't gonna cut the muster). That's assuming they can also overhaul and rebuild their bullpen, and keep their players off the injured reserve list; injuries to the Giants were brutal last year.
Can Stanton play center field?
Id love to see Stanton in S.F. but not at that money.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I don't have a case one way or the other except this player can you help you win or not then outbid the others but there are other factors like location or team prestige or playing style(other sports I don't know enough about baseball) that go into free agency which I assume is what we are talking about. For owners deciding to sign someone can be as much about drawing fans as it is about winning, I just mean me personally. Salary caps are a different story.
Auggie
(31,240 posts)True, Stanton protects Posey but there would still be major questions at third, first, center, the bench, and one or two spots in the bullpen.
I'm also intrigued to see what happens with hitting now that coach Hensley Meullens is replaced. The Giants have never been a power team during his tenure. The World Series years were built on great pitching -- lots of low scoring games and manufactured S.F. runs -- but not power. I want to see what new coach Alonzo Powell and his analytics can do for underachievers such as Jarrod Parker, Mac Williamson and Brandon Belt first -- as well as the younger players like Christian Arroyo, Ryder Jones, etc.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)That is how I remember the Giants as well.
Auggie
(31,240 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)
if the Giants sign Stanton AND if Powell can work magic with the current roster San Francisco could be a force.
True Dough
(17,391 posts)THE GIANTS???
Giancarlo Stanton reps, Giants execs meet with Marlins' approval
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21624245/giancarlo-stanton-reps-san-francisco-giants-executives-met-thursday
Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)And he wants the Dodgers to step in anyway.
Iggo
(47,597 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)I understand there are 2 offers, one from the Giants and one from STL. It's up to Stanton now.
Auggie
(31,240 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)And most likely SF.
Brother Buzz
(36,505 posts)And a trade would involve a couple of big ticket players to keep the Yankees under the $197 million luxury tax threshold.
Ginacarlo Staton trade rumors: NL MVP would approve trade to Yankees, report says
Imagine having to decide which spots in the batting order to pencil in Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Staton that could be a reality for first-time manager Aaron Boone.
Stanton, who is being shopped by the Marlins, has pegged the Yankees as a preferred destination if hes moved, ESPN.com reported.
The Cardinals and Giants have been the biggest players in negotiations for the NL MVP. San Francisco even claims to have a deal in place for Stanton, who would have to waive his no-trade clause to complete any move.
Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner has said he wants to get the teams payroll under MLB's $197 million luxury tax threshold, so making a move for Stanton and the $295 million left on his deal makes little sense from that perspective.
However, the thought of watching moonshots like the one below flying out of Yankee Stadium 81 games each year is enticing.
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http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/ginacarlo-staton-trade-rumors-yankees-news-marlins-giants-cardinals-dodgers-derek-jeter/w11pafdv8hch123gacm7tptzm
True Dough
(17,391 posts)Can you imagine what Aaron Judge, Gary Sanchez and Giancarlo Stanton could do in the heart of the order?
YIKES!!!
Brother Buzz
(36,505 posts)Think about the stats he could roll up!
Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)That trade was an absolute steal.
True Dough
(17,391 posts)People believe Jeter is showing loyalty to his old team. It's an interesting theory. Not sure if true, but the deal certainly does appear to be in the Yanks' favor.
Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)bought the team for the purpose of moving it elsewhere. I understand all players with value are on the trading block, assuring the ownership of incredibly small crowds this year which is exactly what they want.
True Dough
(17,391 posts)are the most likely destination, do you think?
Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)True Dough
(17,391 posts)Montreal still has some ardent fans but surveys of city residents have indicated that overall support for raising taxes to support a new baseball stadium just isn't there.
True Dough
(17,391 posts)Worth a watch...
Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)He knew exactly what the new owners were going to do.
True Dough
(17,391 posts)but a little tidbit for a Nats fan below.
Link to tweet
Washington hasn't made too many moves this off season, at least not that I've heard of. They just nailed down Brandon Kintzler for three years to shore up middle relief. They also acquired Madson and Doolittle late last season, but having a real ace as a closer would be a bonus.
Otherwise, the Nats have a lot of elite-level pieces already anyway. They just have to put it all together.
Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)True Dough
(17,391 posts)(by reducing the talent on the team, as we know)...
In what is called Project Wolverine, a nod to Jeter's native Michigan, the Marlins executive attempted to prove to potential investors that the franchise will turn a major league profit immediately.
According to the Miami Herald, decreased payroll coupled with increased revenue from ticket sales, corporate sponsorships and a revamped local TV deal, as well as a one-time payout of $50 million that each MLB franchise will receive this season, will carry the moribund franchise to profitability. The one-time payment is the result of MLB's $1.58 billion sale of its controlling stake in digital media company BAMtech to Disney.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21946146/derek-jeter-project-wolverine-predicts-miami-marlins-profit-2018
True Dough
(17,391 posts)ESPN has a couple of stories on the situation. One mentioning Jeter's insistence that he has to dismantle the team (although he did supposedly try to move Stanton to the Cards and the Giants before the Yankees signed Stanton):
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21740420/giancarlo-stanton-glad-new-york-yankees-marlins-wanted-subtract
And this one about Jeter getting roasted in Miami:
"You are already hearing the comparisons to [loathed former owner Jeffrey] Loria," said Miami Herald reporter Clark Spencer, who has covered the Marlins for 18 years. "Jeter's honeymoon lasted about a day and a half."
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21688340/for-miami-marlins-derek-jeter-facing-fallout-giancarlo-stanton-deal-whole-new-ballgame
Brother Buzz
(36,505 posts)Giancarlo Stanton will be wearing pinestripes next year, and my magic 8-Ball says the Yankees and the Dodgers will be duking it out in in the 2018 World Series.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)yeah, I know $$$$$ are a factor
BeyondGeography
(39,395 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 11, 2017, 07:34 PM - Edit history (1)
He.never.talked.to.Stanton.
Arrogant.
Stanton was pissed and basically forced Jeter to deal him to the Yankees because LAs offer was even weaker than what the Yankees ended up paying for him. Like much weaker. And LA was the only other team on his list who could afford him.