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http://www.economist.com/news/business/21647976-robert-schuller-entrepreneur-televangelism-and-megachurches-died-april-2nd-retailRobert Schuller, an entrepreneur of televangelism and megachurches, died on April 2nd
Schumpeter
Apr 11th 2015
IN THE 1980s and 1990s no visit to Southern California was complete without a trip to Robert Schullers Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, a short drive from Disneyland. It was the most striking of a new crop of megachurches that were springing up across America. Twelve storeys high and made from 10,000 panes of glass, it made worshippers feel they were praying in the Orange county sun. Mr Schuller was the most successful of a new breed of televangelists who realised that technology was their friend. He may have lacked Jimmy Swaggarts swagger and Jerry Falwells political clout. But he possessed what passed in that world for gravitas. Dressed in flowing, purple robes Dr Schuller, as he always called himself, preached the Word not just to the 3,000-strong congregation (with another 3,000 waiting for the second shift) but also to millions watching on television.
Mr Schuller, who died on April 2nd, was the leading example of a very American breed of businessperson: the pastorpreneur. He succeeded by applying the principles of business to religion. However, in his later years, a religious empire that had grown huge by embracing economies of scale and customer focus fell victim to two familiar causes of business failure: poor succession planning, and a failure to react to dynamic new competitors.
He had started preaching at the age of five, to his fathers cows; he opened his first ministry in 1955, in a drive-in cinema in Los Angeles. His wife played an organ that was hitched to the back of their car. Mr Schuller preached from the roof of a hot-dog stand. The audience sat in their cars and listened via tiny speakers. The churchs motto was perfectly tailored to the emerging American Autopia: Come as you are, pray in the family car.
As his audience grew and the tithes rolled in, Mr Schuller abandoned his hot-dog stand. In 1961 he built a bricks-and-mortar walk-in, drive-in church. In 1970 he began broadcasting his Hour of Power. In 1980, his flock still swelling, he built his $20m Crystal Cathedral. He hosted the Hour of Power until 2010, its audience peaking at 20m viewers in about 180 countries.
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pinto
(106,886 posts)in a religious setting. He always reminded me of that movie musical about the travelling salesman who put on a clever, popular song and dance along with his sales pitch.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I never really followed Shuller and haven't seen the crystal cathedral
. nor am I likely to.
On my last trip across the country I saw a whole lot of these mega churches that had been abandoned, and that gave me hope.
Are you talking about Music Man?
pinto
(106,886 posts)I too hope they fade from the scene. Especially the political scene where many play a role.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)pinto
(106,886 posts)It's unmistakable.
Good morning by the way.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)It is overcast here, which is a good thing as it has started to heat up already.
You should be coming up on wildflower season, yes?
pinto
(106,886 posts)Lupine and poppies go through cycles. Some years they are everywhere, some years it's hit and miss. (aside) They have a symbiotic relationship, where you see one you see the other. Something about soil nitrogen, iirc.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)Other than the aesthetics of its architecture there is nothing different.
pinto
(106,886 posts)The churches of the day in Europe were more a day-to-day part of local life. Catholics routinely went to mass every morning. The church played numerous roles in daily life, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. One was as a place of refuge - at one time an honored tradition. One was as a last resort resource for the displaced or destitute. One was more simply a part of local and family culture.
Structurally, much of the architecture was geared to a largely illiterate population. The frescoes, the statues, the pictoral stations of the cross, etc. told the church's story, portrayed its message to congregations that could not read.
There is much to damn the churches for their actions during that time. Very much. Yet hosting a two hour celebration of personal prosperity once a week isn't one.
Degree of difference.
Sorry for the delay in replying to your post. I had some off-line family and food things to do, then there was baseball...
Leontius
(2,270 posts)The small village church had the same method of teaching as you state used by the great cathedrals. I'm not in a position to make an argument against or for the duties the Schuller ministry performed for the community in full but I do find your statement on it a rather cheap shot.
okasha
(11,573 posts)But you don't find the quality or quantity of pictorial teaching in village churches that you do in the cathedrals, for the simple reason that village churches couldn't afford them. Artists and the most skilled artisans preferred the urban areas where their work could be financed by the church, the nobility and guilds or individual wealthy merchants.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)The priests were usually more educated as well, why? Money and power and influence spent to have them there. Size, scale and prestige same then as now.
okasha
(11,573 posts)And allow me to assure you that even now artists have a very strong preference for being paid for their work.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)Just kidding.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Just my personal opinion on what I know of his activities. I could have made that disclaimer clear. Personal opinion. I think he was a manipulative opportunist. And a good one at that.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)I have seen plenty of cheap shots by others here so I maybe overreacted to what you said based on that as well.
pinto
(106,886 posts)justhanginon
(3,290 posts)10.5 million dollar home and own a bright red Ferarri? I think Joel Osteens worth is estimated at around 50 million dollars. As P. T. Barnum said "there's a sucker born every minute".
I cannot fathom the mindset of someone of ordinary circumstances, like myself, donating money to this charlatan.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)And while I hold these shysters personally responsible, I also put a lot of blame on the IRS for turning a blind eye to them.
People give money because he gives them false hope that they will become rich. It's been happening since there were people, I would guess.
I remember EST from my early adult years. Same crap, different language.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)I know that the local RC Diocese has repurposed the building for their own local cathedral, which, if not open now, must be nearly ready for use.
It will be interesting to see how the new cathedral has been adapted from the previous structure.
rug
(82,333 posts)http://www.religionnews.com/2014/09/25/look-inside-transformation-crystal-cathedral/
I didn't realize the property covers 35 acres.
No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)my family & friends.
I have a brother in that diocese, though further south.