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Related: About this forumEXCLUSIVE: Catholic Church spent $2M on major N.Y. lobbying firms to block child-sex law reform
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/catholic-church-hired-lobby-firms-block-n-y-kid-rape-laws-article-1.2655010The Catholic Conference, headed by Timothy Cardinal Dolan, has used Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker, Patricia Lynch & Associates, Hank Sheinkopf, and Mark Behan Communications to lobby against the Child Victims Act as well as for or against other measures.
All told, the conference spent more than $2.1 million on lobbying from 2007 through the end of 2015, state records show. That does not include the conferences own internal lobbying team.
This should turn the stomach of everyone , even Catholic Church apologists.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Cartoonist
(7,326 posts)And when the collection plate comes around, they dig deep into their pockets, because they think they are buying tickets to Heaven. They don't care that the Jesus train is running over kids tied to the tracks.
So sayeth this proud Catholic bigot.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I can't even believe you say such a thing. Are you an islamiphobe? Some marry young girls and worse. Trump wants to ban them because of this and other reasons. You don't applaud him do you? All I say is be careful of the bigot tag. You can be against something and not brag about being a bigot. Bigotry is wrong no matter what.
Cartoonist
(7,326 posts)Let me hear you defend them.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)calling out the Catholic Church as an organization that continues enables pedophiles and puts it's own welfare above the victimized children gets you labelled a bigot.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Not sure what you are saying here. Pedophilia is wrong. Is Islam saying that?
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I don't think any group should be bashed. Unless we bash every group that does similar wrong doing.
Cartoonist
(7,326 posts)Despite their shameless policies? You're willing to look the other way and instead rail against those who criticize the church?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)Not that Islam isn't without its faults (there are plenty), but the Catholic pedophilia scandal is really unequaled. Unless you can point to a specific Islamic, Jewish, or Hindu sect with a billion adherents and a footprint on every continent that has coddled, protected, and reassigned priests who were raping children, and continues to fight victims and protect the guilty to this very day.
So can you?
Fix The Stupid
(951 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Just let it go.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)I'm sure someone will be along to scream at the "anti-Catholic bigots" who keep pointing out the RCC is still protecting child abusers.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)"the conference spent more than $2.1 million on lobbying from 2007 through the end of 2015"
Poust's comment may also be important: The Catholic Conference lobbies on many issues, from assisted suicide to farm worker rights to school choice to criminal justice reform
In any six month period, the Catholic conference lobbies on over forty bills; it's easily available public information
edhopper
(33,667 posts)equivocate, redirect, but never criticize.
One dollar spent on blocking a Child Victims Bill to protect their rapist priests and their coffers is too much.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Must be one of the usual suspects. What's the angle this time?
edhopper
(33,667 posts)You know there is abortion and Gay Rights to fight as well.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)I guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore.
Must be a dose of the usual syrup.
rug
(82,333 posts)http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=7073
They must support child rape.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)prosecution of rapists.
rug
(82,333 posts)edhopper
(33,667 posts)But please don't criticize the Church for protecting child rapist. And spending your donations to do so.
Please don't.
Equivocate and deflect like always please. please please.
rug
(82,333 posts)A woefully wrong inference.
I look forward to your implication of a nefarious motive to the NYCLU because they happen to be on the same side of a religious organization. For very sound nonreligious reasons.
I'll switch my $1 weekly donation to the NYCLU this week. You in?
edhopper
(33,667 posts)as a candidate once said.
rug
(82,333 posts)Neither the ACLU or the NYCLU are one issue organizations.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)The NYCLU only opposes the criminal part, not the civil, which concerns the Church.
rug
(82,333 posts)Although as a legal entity being sued, do you think they do not have the right to defend themselves within the law?
That is an entirely different question from their morality which I'd be happy to discuss.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)the Church you support and devote yourself to and the morality of how the have dealt with child rapists.
Your ongoing defense of them says enough.
why don't you take your anti-catholic bullshit and shove it?
Or grow up.
needs a time out.
rug
(82,333 posts)Iggo
(47,597 posts)But you know it won't.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Response to edhopper (Original post)
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EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Is a BIG SHOT in NYC Dem circles.
Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker are big Dem donors... especially to Cuomo.