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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 10:52 PM Feb 2012

At CPAC, candidates decry President Obama's 'war on religion'

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-cpac-candidates-20120211,0,7434277.story


By David Horsey

February 11, 2012, 8:26 a.m.
President Obama is trying to accommodate Catholic bishops on birth control, but at CPAC, Republican presidential candidates still ranted about his assault on religion.

At the annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington on Friday, Newt Gingrich warned that Obama would “declare war” on the Catholic Church if he were reelected.

Mitt Romney, who in recent days has been decrying Obama’s “war on religion,” pledged that he would “reverse every single Obama regulation that attacks our religious liberty and threatens innocent human life in this country.”

Rick Santorum said the proposed mandate requiring all employers, including religious organizations, to provide insurance coverage for contraceptives is the kind of coercion that threatens religious freedom. Santorum’s remarks were restrained compared to what he had to say at a gathering in Texas on Wednesday. There, he accused progressives of trying to “oppress people of faith.”

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At CPAC, candidates decry President Obama's 'war on religion' (Original Post) cbayer Feb 2012 OP
It is a shame that so many christians have so little faith Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #1
Nothing like a little feigned hurt to gin up the troops customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #2
Many Reform Jews openly enjoy bacon cheeseburgers. laconicsax Feb 2012 #3
Ok, perhaps a poor example customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #5
Hilarious post cbayer Feb 2012 #6
I guess Gingrich thinks Catholic Bishops should ... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #4
I suppose Gingrich also thinks... LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #8
Ugghhhh LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #7

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
1. It is a shame that so many christians have so little faith
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 11:15 PM
Feb 2012

in their god to be able to take care of himself
If I remember correctly god said to turn the other cheek

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
2. Nothing like a little feigned hurt to gin up the troops
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:27 AM
Feb 2012

Since practically no mainstream religious group (yeah, I'm including the fundies in that, there are so damned many of them) suffers any real religious persecution in the historical sense of the word, they have to invent it.

However, that said, I could probably find some reform Jews who secretly enjoy a bacon double cheeseburger, but would have a problem if the government asked their rabbi to cook it and pay for it. That's the nearest analogy I can come up with to explain the sense of insult that has been blown up to monumental proportions.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
3. Many Reform Jews openly enjoy bacon cheeseburgers.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:54 AM
Feb 2012

At the first potluck my family went to at our old synagogue, more than one family brought decidedly non-Kosher foods (pork, mixed meat/dairy, and shellfish). There were some rolled eyes, but no one really cared.

Plus, it's common knowledge that when it comes to following that sort of rule, two wrongs make a right--bacon is wrong, cheeseburger is wrong, but the two infractions cancel each other out. You just have to make sure that you have an even number of infractions.

For example:

-Cheeseburgers are OK if any odd number of ingredients aren't kosher, or if you're cooking it on the Sabbath.

-Extra-marital sex is OK if it's with someone of the same sex, if one person is menstruating, has menstruated within the last week, or has touched someone who has menstruated in the last week, or while eating a not-OK cheeseburger.

-Coveting is always OK if you're wearing mixed fibers. Same with taking God's name in vain or working on the Sabbath.

The list goes on and on.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. Ok, perhaps a poor example
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:55 PM
Feb 2012

but I was trying to use a religion that depends on heavily on guilt, as did my Catholic upbringing (which I have fortunately shaken off).

The idea is, the laity is OK with the clergy being "holier" than they are, and wishing to stay that way, despite what the laity picks and chooses from the doctrine.

 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
4. I guess Gingrich thinks Catholic Bishops should ...
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 08:23 AM
Feb 2012

decide what happens inside a woman's uterus, what pills a woman should take, and what she should do if she becomes pregnant as the result of a rape.

The Catholic Bishops, yup, that's who should control all the women in this country, and decide what's right and wrong.

SURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LeftishBrit

(41,219 posts)
8. I suppose Gingrich also thinks...
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:49 PM
Feb 2012

that because the Catholic church disapproves of divorce and remarriage, it should be against the law for people to remarry after a divorce.

Or more likely he doesn't think that.

It's WOMEN'S rights that these right-wingers mainly want to suppress.

LeftishBrit

(41,219 posts)
7. Ugghhhh
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:47 PM
Feb 2012

Obama is a Christian, and discusses his religion; just because he is not a fanatical right-winger and so-called 'pro-lifer'*, does not mean he is at war with religion.

I hate right-wing scum.

I am glad to say that most Catholic clergy in this country do not share these obsessions, though those who do, rant about why religious people in England can't be more like those in America.


*Anyone who is only interested in outlawing abortion, and not in reducing infant mortality, cannot be truly called 'pro-life'.

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