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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 07:53 PM Jun 2015

The origin of leap seconds, and why they should be abolished

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David Yanofsky

How many seconds have there been since January 1, 1972?

While that number is extremely large, it is pretty simply calculated. Multiply the number of years (and don’t forget leap years!) by the number of days in a year by the number of hours in a day by the number of minutes in an hour by the number of seconds in a minute and voilà: 1,371,513,600 seconds as of midnight on June 29, 2015.

Except that that’s not right. We’re leaving out leap seconds. Leap seconds, you ask? Yes, leap seconds. There have been 26 of them, and number 27 is just around the corner: It will be added to global clocks at 1am London time on July 1.

The leap second is a near paradox. It befuddles all common definitions of time. Notionally, it’s a way to unify all our ways of measuring time. In reality, it’s just an attempt to preserve an old definition of time that has long since been superseded by newer methods. In the process, the leap second—through no fault of its own—puts at risk countless critical computer systems around the world. And that is forcing even the people who are charged with administering the world’s supply of leap seconds to consider getting rid of them altogether.

much more
http://qz.com/432787/the-origin-of-leap-seconds-and-why-they-should-be-abolished/

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The origin of leap seconds, and why they should be abolished (Original Post) n2doc Jun 2015 OP
So for the U.S. June 30th is the longest day of the year 4139 Jun 2015 #1
Very interesting! And very clearly written for a surprisingly complicated topic... petronius Jun 2015 #2
LOL - we have to redefine time because of buggy computer software! bananas Jun 2015 #3
And the leap-second isn't a paradox... DetlefK Jun 2015 #6
Next they'll want to get rid of the International Date Line bananas Jun 2015 #4
I guess they forgot the branch cut. BadgerKid Jun 2015 #5
Fuck the stock markets... hunter Jun 2015 #7
Yes. byronius Jun 2015 #8
Well said - +1,000 Hestia Jul 2015 #10
Caught part of a program on PBS about this subject a few days ago. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #9
What is time anyway? caraher Jul 2015 #11
The call to abolish leap seconds would mean cheapdate Jul 2015 #12
Better solution ThoughtCriminal Jul 2015 #13
Arrgh--it's like Y2K all over again..... panader0 Jul 2015 #14
can we desalt w/ day light savings time FIRST? pansypoo53219 Jul 2015 #15

petronius

(26,614 posts)
2. Very interesting! And very clearly written for a surprisingly complicated topic...
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jun 2015

Thanks for posting!

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. And the leap-second isn't a paradox...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:59 AM
Jun 2015

One year is not an integer-multiple of one day. One year is 365 days + 6 hours + X minutes + Y seconds. We normally don't count the small things, which means the calendar we use is shorter than the real astronomical calendar of seasons and sunrises/sunsets.

And to balance that out, we have to make our calendar a little bit longer from time to time.

Why is this supposed to be any more confusing than adding a day during leap-years????????????????????

bananas

(27,509 posts)
4. Next they'll want to get rid of the International Date Line
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=6225

When the group of Raptors crossed over the IDL, multiple computer systems crashed on the planes. Everything from fuel subsystems, to navigation and partial communications were completely taken offline. Numerous attempts were made to "reboot" the systems to no avail.

hunter

(38,354 posts)
7. Fuck the stock markets...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

... high frequency trading ought to be eliminated by a tiny tax on trades, and perhaps the introduction of a bit of noise to discourage exploits that take advantage of artifacts in the signal.

Leap seconds don't make sense in the modern world. Anyone who needs a human friendly "local" time could just grab the common offset, which is how "time zones" basically work anyways.

From my perspective it wouldn't be bad if communities went back to some version of local time too.

It's not like everyone is sitting down to watch the evening news at the same time anymore.

Goodbye Walter Cronkite.

A little bit of chaos stirs things up, refreshes things. Too many of us are slaves to the clock.





A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
9. Caught part of a program on PBS about this subject a few days ago.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jul 2015

With 27 seconds in 43 years it seems to me that we could wait for each century mark to do the correction for about a minute of time. Or do the correction on the leap years. Then again I doubt I will live to be a hundred, give me all the time I have coming, I want it now!

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
12. The call to abolish leap seconds would mean
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015

severing any remaining link between time keeping and the Earth and Sun. A scientist's and an engineer's dream, the time would depend only on the oscillation of atoms in the Naval Observatory's atomic clock, and would no longer have any relationship to the positions of the Earth, Sun, or Moon.

Save the leap seconds!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,057 posts)
13. Better solution
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jul 2015

Change the Earth's rotation so that a day is always 86400 seconds. And while we're at it, let's fix the orbit around the Sun so that it is more circular and a complete orbit is always 365 Earth days (revised). Might as well fix that axial tilt thing too. Not sure what to do about the Moon. Having an off-kilter barycenter that gives us that complicated wobble thing. Maybe we can split the Moon into two equal mass satellites on opposite sides.


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