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NNadir

(33,580 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:56 PM Jan 2020

A Broadening Definition in Fast Nuclear Reactor Design: A New Meaning for the Abbreviation "LMFR."

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The paper I'll discuss in this brief post is this one: A Review of Molten Salt Reactor Kinetics Models (Wooten and Powers, NUCLEAR SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING · VOLUME 191 · 203–230 · SEPTEMBER 2018.)

The concept of "Molten Salt Nuclear Reactors" generally referred to as MSR's, has enjoyed a resurgence in recent years, and there are a plethora of start up companies devoted to them, some more likely to succeed than others. Even people who have a vague understanding that nuclear energy is the best (and in my opinion "only" ) tool for fighting climate change, but otherwise no deeper understanding of the technology, can generate enthusiasm for the "Liquid Thorium Molten Salt Reactor," about which they've heard, peripherally on the internet is "safer" and "generates less waste" than current nuclear reactors.

This is in spite of the fact that in comparison to all other forms of energy, the existing nuclear fleet is already "safer" and generates "less waste" than all other forms of energy. Combustion waste, approximately equally divided between "renewable" biofuels and dangerous fossil fuels - there is less difference between these two than people think - kills between six and seven million people per year. That is "unsafe." The quantity of combustion waste is in the tens of billions of tons per year, whereas used nuclear fuel accumulates at about ten thousand tons per year. Used nuclear fuel is generally a solid, easy to contain indefinitely, combustion waste is gaseous, impossible (on scale) to contain even briefly. All of the deaths associated with commercial nuclear technology utilized in a period of well more than 60 years, do not match the number of deaths that will take place in the next six days from combustion waste.

Molten salt reactors cannot be "more safe" than pressurized water reactors, because pressurized water reactors have half a century of experience of remarkably safe operation when measured against any other form of energy in terms of DALY/GWh. (DALY = Disability Adjusted Lost Years of life.) Any money spent to make nuclear reactors "safer" is wasted so long as fossil fuels and raw (and even processed) biomass exist, since they are both spectacularly "unsafe."

This said, Molten Salt Reactors are not really bad technologies; they have many features to recommend them, and other features that are may be less desirable, depending on design and chemistry of the working fluids. (The most commonly discussed working fluid is FLIBE, a eutectic mixture of lithium and beryllium fluorides.)

I've lost some of my initial strong enthusiasm for the concept of MSR's for various reasons, although I can't imagine any type of reactor, even an RBMK reactor of the Chernobyl type - no RBMK will ever be built again - that is dangerous as dangerous fossil fuels.

If people start building MSR's all over the world, so much the better for the world.

Most MSR's are built around the utilization of thorium based fuels, with the common isotope of thorium - 233Th - being a fertile rather than a fissile fuel. In recent years, I've been much more interested in plutonium - in the presence of fertile uranium 238 and/or 233 Th - because of certain remarkable features of plutonium metal across which I've come.

The MSR concept is largely based on a reactor built and operated at Oak Ridge National laboratory under the guidance of the great nuclear engineer Alvin Weinberg in the early 1960's. Another type of reactor - which has fascinated me in recent years - also operated around that time at Los Alamos, the LAMPRE, reactor, the "Los Alamos Molten Plutonium Reactor Experiment."

In the modern literature on nuclear reactors almost never discusses the LAMPRE concept, which involved the use of liquid plutonium metal as a eutectic with iron. Most of what I've learned about this reactor is from literature published in the 1960's, although there are some later papers that discuss the properties of liquid plutonium, for example, Properties of plutonium and its alloys for use as fast reactor fuels (Hecker and Stan, Journal of Nuclear Materials 383 (2008) 112–118).

The LAMPRE was not a reactor designed to have flowing fuel - as operated - but the paper above, is the first paper published in decades, to my knowledge - that refers to a new use of the abbreviation of LMFR, "liquid metal breeder reactor" - which refers in general to stationary solid nuclear fuels cooled by a liquid metal, generally and regrettably liquid sodium metal, in a new way, as a "liquid metal fueled reactor," a subtle and important difference.

To wit:

A circulating fuel reactor (CFR) is any reactor in which fuel is “circulated through the reactor and then the heat exchanger.”1 Typically, a CFR is one of three subtypes: a fluid-fueled molten salt reactor (MSR) in which a fuel salt, typically a fluoride or chloride, is dissolved in a molten coolant salt; an aqueous homogeneous reactor (AHR) in which a fuel salt, typically a nitrate or sulfate, is dissolved in water; or a liquid metal fueled reactor (LMFR) in which a liquid metal containing the fuel isotopes is used in the core of the reactor. For the most part, this work will focus on MSRs rather than AHRs or LMFRs. However, when possible, the term “CFR” will be used when statements are more broadly applicable to any reactor with circulating fuel.


The history of MSRs begins with the Aircraft Reactor Experiment at Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) in the late 1950s and grows with the Molten Salt Reactor Experiment (MSRE), which was successfully operated with a full power of 8 MW(thermal) for more than 13 000 equivalent full-power hours with 233U, 235U, and 239Pu fuels at different points in time. No other MSR has been built since the MSRE project was closed in the late 1960s. However, MSR studies continued at ORNL, including the Molten Salt Breeder Reactor (MSBR) and the Denatured Molten Salt Reactor, and elsewhere in the world. In general, there was very little interest in developing MSRs from the 1970s through the 1990s. This changed in the late 1990s as interest in CFRs began growing in Europe. This momentum grew with the MOST project and continued through ALISIA, EVOL, and now SAMOFAR, resulting in the preconceptual Molten Salt Fast Reactor (MSFR). The Molten Salt Actinide Recycler and Transmuter (MOSART) design from Russia, the Chinese-designed Thorium Molten Salt Reactor–Liquid Fueled (TMSR-LF), the FUJI series of reactors out of Japan, and a host of proposed privately designed reactors have all additionally driven demand for modeling and simulation of CFRs.


The italics and bold are mine.

I like this new (to my knowledge) generalized abbreviation "CFR" which covers a broad range of possible reactor types.

For the record, my own thinking about liquid metal fueled does not involve flowing liquid fuels; I am interested in the potential of liquid fuels - owing to the metallurgical properties of liquid plutonium based fuels - to spontaneously reprocess some valuable and essential fission products. Some of these fission products were shown to be volatile at Chernobyl and Fukushima, where their uncontrolled volatilization accounted for their health risks, which despite being very real, are dwarfed by the health risks of volatile dangerous fossil fuel and biomass waste, risks humanity stupidly accepts continuously - under the normal operation of combustion equipment (as opposed to being in accidental settings) - without a whimper generally, and more generally with lip service not matched by action.

The paper focuses on MSR type reactors, but the point that it can be generalized is interesting.

The paper is basically about mathematical modeling.

For some flavor of its starting point, here's some more text:

The effects of fluid flow on the neutron flux manifest in three ways: changes to the differential scattering cross sections, changes to the angular fission neutron emission spectra, and changes in the displacement of DNPs. Considering that the speeds and energies associated with fission neutrons are orders of magnitude larger than those associated with fluid flow, the effects on the differential scattering cross sections and the angular fission neutron emission spectra would be minimal to nonexistent. The effects of displacing DNPs are extensive and are addressed in Sec. II.B. Only one attempt to incorporate fluid flow effects, beyond the displacement of DNPs, on the neutron flux was found in the literature. Reference 4 includes an advective drift term in the neutron diffusion equation—the second and third additive terms seen in Eq. (1) as reproduced from Eq. (14) of Ref. 4:



where u is the fluid flow velocity and the number of groups is two with no upscattering.


"DNP" here refers to "delayed neutron precursor." Delayed neutrons allow for the control of nuclear reactors, if they flow out of a reactor before emitting neutrons, they can complicate reactivity.

In terms of generalization, for stationary liquid fuels this graphic from the paper interests me, as it touches on a problem about which I think quite often:



Some years ago, there was talk of a "nuclear renaissance" which looked backward to a time where humanity built more than 400 nuclear reactors in a period of about two decades, saving millions of lives that otherwise would have been lost to air pollution (dangerous combustion wastes). It didn't work out, owing to the willful destruction in the 1990's of intellectual and physical nuclear infrastructure by people who have a poor comprehension of basic facts, engineering, scientific or otherwise. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't look back to the life saving success of nuclear reactor engineering in the 1960's and 1970's, briefly continuing into the 1980's. These pressurized nuclear reactors were a spectacular success and they saved lives. The result of this failure of a nuclear renaissance has resulted in the rise of carbon dioxide concentrations by an unbelievable 45 ppm since January of 2000. The rate of the rate of increase, (the second derivative) is increasing, not decreasing as a result of this triumph of ignorance.

The triumph of ignorance is also rising, not falling. Part of this is political, but other factors are clearly involved.

Nevertheless, there are these pockets of knowledge - among them obscure nuclear engineering groups in national labs and universities - that function as monasteries did in the Middle Ages - that may bring future generations a better world, in spite of what we've done to them.

Language is a key to knowledge, and this subtle change of language where the letter "f" represents "flow" as opposed to - or in addition to - "fast" is a wonderful, if subtle, development.

I trust you're having a pleasant weekend.
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A Broadening Definition in Fast Nuclear Reactor Design: A New Meaning for the Abbreviation "LMFR." (Original Post) NNadir Jan 2020 OP
Just wait until we see the awesome power of the LMFAO reactors n/t Silent3 Jan 2020 #1
It's rather a shame that I lack a sense of humor... NNadir Jan 2020 #2

NNadir

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2. It's rather a shame that I lack a sense of humor...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:06 AM
Jan 2020

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...it's a decently witty thought.

My sons inform me that what passes for a sense of humor on my part can be inappropriate and perverse, but again, I'm not sure I have a sense of humor, so much as a sense of cynicism.

It is a little difficult to laugh about this situation with respect to nuclear energy, since, if one really thinks about it, six to seven million air pollution deaths per year is the equivalent of a holocaust a year, and I would imagine holocaust jokes, if they exist, fall flat. The air pollution holocausts per decade were all unnecessary, if we lived in a world where critical thinking mattered.

Many of my threads here over the years, usually responses from supremely ignorant anti-nukes, have involved the use of internet locutions like LOL and the use of ROFL smileys. They used to make my angry. This said, if one gets angry about ignorance, one risks being angry all the time.

I've generally placed all of these supremely stupid people on my ignore list, and it would appear that they stop by here from time to time to add a stupid comment to one of my posts, which happily, I don't see.

However, at a weak stab at actually having a sense of humor, may I suggest "liquid metal flowing actinide oxygenation" reactors for LMFAO.

Thanks. I'll try to chuckle.

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