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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 06:30 AM Jun 2015

Discovery of metal vessels ""will change the story about Pre Inca Chachapoyas






They might not be as sacred as the Holy Grail, but two metal vessels recently discovered in Chachapoyas are turning heads in regards to understanding the region’s ancient history.

“The Finding of these vessels will change the story about Chachapoyas” the Decentralized Department of Culture of the Amazonas head, Jose Santos Trauco Ramos, told El Comercio.

The discovery of two silver vessels in the Soloco Purunllacta in Chachapoyas of the Amazonas department are unlike anything the archaeological team has found in its history. Investigations until this date had never discussed the peoples of Chachapoyas involved in metalworks, reports El Comercio.

The two vessels have recently finished a 60 restoration period at the conservation area of the Museo Arqueologico Nacional Bruning of Lambayeque. Trauco says it is too early to be sure, but there is a possibility that the vessels with Inca influence, could have been offerings.

The vessels weigh 152 grams each, 112 millimeters high and 117 millimeters in diameter. They will be part of an exhibition on the grounds of what will soon be the Museum of Chachapoyas.

Chachapoyas is one of Peru’s most sacred archaeological zones. However, its isolation and difficult to reach location, make it less popular and less visited. Kuelap is one of the most impressive sites, located 3,000 meters above sea level, the site is a must when in Chachapoyas.

http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-discovery-of-metal-vessels-will-change-the-history-of-chachapoyas-106778


Wikipedia

Chachapoya culture


Appearance and origins[edit]


Cieza de León remarked that, among the indigenous Peruvians, the Chachapoyas were unusually fair-skinned and famously beautiful:


“ They are the whitest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen in Indies, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas' wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple (...) The women and their husbands always dressed in woolen clothes and in their heads they wear their llautos, which are a sign they wear to be known everywhere. ”


These comments have led to claims, not supported by Cieza de León's chronicle, that the Chachapoyas were blond-haired and European in appearance. The chronicle's use of the term "white" here pre-dates its emergence as a racial classification. Another Spanish author, Pedro Pizarro, described all indigenous Peruvians as "white." Although some authors have quoted Pizarro saying that Chachapoyas were blond, these authors do not quote him directly; instead they quote remarks attributed to him and others by Nazi race scientist Jacques de Mahieu in support of his thesis that Vikings had brought civilization to the Americas.[1][2]

Following up on these claims, anthropologist Inge Schjellerup examined the remains of Chachapoyans and found them consistent with other ancient Peruvians. She found, for example, a universal occurrence of shovel-shaped upper incisors and a near-complete absence of Carabelli's cusp on upper molars — characteristics consistent with other Amerindians and inconsistent with Europeans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chachapoya_culture


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Discovery of metal vessels ""will change the story about Pre Inca Chachapoyas (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 OP
Thanks for posting a la izquierda Jun 2015 #1
I think we have a lot of posts in this group Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #2
Amazing! Who could have anticipated this? Judi Lynn Jun 2015 #3

a la izquierda

(11,803 posts)
1. Thanks for posting
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:24 AM
Jun 2015

I'm teaching a course on the Aztecs, Incas, and Mayas, and I'm always looking for articles on ancient Andean civilizations (I know Incan pre-history less well than the others).

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
2. I think we have a lot of posts in this group
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:03 AM
Jun 2015

on Native ancient culture of n. and s. america

What's interesting to me of this post is the metallurgy involved making those cups and their age.

Judi Lynn

(160,697 posts)
3. Amazing! Who could have anticipated this?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jun 2015

Most clearly does add a whole new perspective, doesn't it?

Seeing the ancient worksmanship on the cups only makes a person even more concerned with learning more about this culture, as soon as any part of it is revealed.

Thank you, so much.

Google images showing some views of their astonishing architecture, etc.:

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSND_enUS566US566&q=chachapoyas+peru&tbm=isch&gws_rd=ssl#gws_rd=ssl&imgrc=_

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