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'We'd get killed'
By Steve Benen
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST
How important has Michigan's Republican presidential primary become? Talk like this is becoming increasingly common.
"If Romney cannot win Michigan, we need a new candidate," said the senator, who has not endorsed anyone and requested anonymity.
The senator believes Romney will ultimately win in Michigan but says he will publicly call for the party to find a new candidate if he does not.
The unnamed prominent Republican senator said Romney, if he manages to win the nomination after losing Michigan, would stand little chance against President Obama in November. "We'd get killed," he said, because Romney would be "too damaged."
And what of Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich? The senator added that both, if nominated, would "lose 35 states." (Ron Paul's name apparently wasn't included as part of the conversation.)
Jeb probably won't be the GOP's white knight.
So, if Romney would be broken by a Michigan defeat, and all of his rivals are inadequate, who exactly does this senator have in mind for the Republican Party in 2012?
"Jeb Bush," he said.
Look, I can appreciate the GOP's longing for a white knight, but this is getting rather silly. First, nominating yet another Bush -- the brother and son of two disliked Republican presidents -- is not a recipe for success. Second, relevant filing deadlines have come and gone.
And third, as Ed Kilgore noted, "{A}ny Bush Boom would have to deal with the fact that Republican opinion-leaders (and the current candidates) have spent a good part of the last three years trashing the administration of Jeb's brother as a heretical exercise in Big Government Conservatism."
The Jeb nonsense notwithstanding, the senator's comments to Jon Karl are an early hint of what's to come: if Santorum wins Michigan, which is certainly possible, the whispers about Romney's viability will become a roar very quickly. That probably wouldn't be enough to coax a new candidate into the race, but it might be enough to send the GOP establishment into a widespread panic.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)elleng
(131,391 posts)"{A}ny Bush Boom would have to deal with the fact that Republican opinion-leaders (and the current candidates) have spent a good part of the last three years trashing the administration of Jeb's brother as a heretical exercise in Big Government Conservatism." and 'nominating yet another Bush -- the brother and son of two disliked Republican presidents -- is not a recipe for success' among repugs.
I do agree, however, overall: They'd get killedl. OKAY!!!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)The Walter Mondale of 2012, if you will.
yellowcanine
(35,704 posts)Redstate Bluegirl
(213 posts)Hey, when Tommy Boy Friedman is saying the GOP should maybe take a pass on this year's election.....!
DCBob
(24,689 posts)It will be interesting to see what happens if that comes to pass. I thought Romney had this locked up but I am starting to waver a bit. The possibility of a brokered convention still looms as well. What a mess the GOPers have wrought on themselves. Love it!
MidwestTransplant
(8,015 posts)Citizen Worker
(1,785 posts)GHWB, twenty years after his one term is rarely mentioned but if we begin hearing his name something's afoot.
gateley
(62,683 posts)rfranklin
(13,200 posts)They have managed to psychologically remove his brother Georgie from their history of the world. They probably believe that they can do the same to the voters.
Renew Deal
(81,899 posts)They'd lose badly as well.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)But not this time. The next election
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)So with all this talk about a brokered convention, the eventual nominee will have to be someone who was in the original cast?
babylonsister
(171,110 posts)Per Ezra Klein, it's doable but would be a 'suicide mission'...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125113192
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I like Ezra Klein. He seems to be able to parse this stuff with ease.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)People don't vote for candidates, they vote for electoral college voters and those names will be submitted in time.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)yellowcanine
(35,704 posts)first ballot I believe. Of course many would have loyalties to particular candidates so there would have to be some wheeling and dealing- likely the selected candidate would have to accept one of the others as VP.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)anything else. As our good friend Rev. Jackson would say, "Stay out of the Bushes".
hwmnbn
(4,279 posts)I like the sound of that!
yellowcanine
(35,704 posts)K Gardner
(14,933 posts)The title threw me off.
GeorgeGist
(25,326 posts)is playing games with you.