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Michigan Exit Polls (Original Post) Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 OP
That says it includes "some absentees." Renew Deal Feb 2012 #1
I think later in the day will be more accurate Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #3
this guy's exit polls had romney winning in co by 10 percent hrmjustin Feb 2012 #23
the thing is, the early voting....is that factored in to the first tier. obviously not because Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2012 #35
As usual be careful with exit polls. Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #2
Amen on that Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #4
Iv never heard of him anywhere. Or of his polling. Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #8
Me either Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #12
I agree Renew Deal Feb 2012 #13
The GOP probly has a stash of Romney votes somewhere. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #5
Here in Alabama Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #6
I think a narrow win is almost as bad for Romney as a loss... WI_DEM Feb 2012 #7
I think he will spin either Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #10
Nah, he can't spin a loss. vaberella Feb 2012 #24
Polls are generally very accurate and a good indicator of whats going on in a race. aaaaaa5a Feb 2012 #9
True, but it depends on the State and the methodology Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #11
Update - for what it is worth Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #14
Let's even say that is how it turned out--it would still represent a pretty stiff rebuke to Romney WI_DEM Feb 2012 #15
Absolutely Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #16
Unfortunately, this is somewhat meaningless Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #17
Indeed Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #20
It could easily be a tie for delegates Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #21
Latest exit poll Phaerisee Feb 2012 #18
They said it would be close Broderick Feb 2012 #19
He also has exit polls from Arizona-- WI_DEM Feb 2012 #22
UPDATE - 4:30 (again...for what it is worth) Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #25
I don't think this guy knows anything. Renew Deal Feb 2012 #27
ok that doesn't make any sense. Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #29
Spertino? A wrestling fanatic who is also a Romney supporter grantcart Feb 2012 #26
Doofus...likely true Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #28
I dont think he counting Dems or early voters DCBob Feb 2012 #30
He said he was counting early voters. Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #31
If he is not counting Dems then his numbers are skewed toward Romney. DCBob Feb 2012 #32
Yeah, judging from the way Team Romney has been acting all day Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #33
It will be interesting to see how the GOPer establisment responds to a Romney loss. DCBob Feb 2012 #34
I think this guy is a fraud. Renew Deal Feb 2012 #36
"This Account Has Been Suspended" LOL!! DCBob Feb 2012 #37
Well there ya go! Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #38
is it just a gentlemen's agreement that the media not publish Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2012 #39
There is no law and often exit polls are leaked... Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #40
FINAL (If they are real) Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #41
They may be real but his track record SUCKS. Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #42
Yeah, he's a Romney supporter Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #43
He had Romney only narrowly losing MO, and winning CO by double digits. Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #44

Renew Deal

(81,900 posts)
1. That says it includes "some absentees."
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:19 PM
Feb 2012

I wonder what that's based on. Did they steal PPP's numbers?

Gingrich's number is really low which is a good sign for Santorum. I wonder when working people will show up to vote and who they will vote for. Dems usually show up later in the day.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
3. I think later in the day will be more accurate
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:21 PM
Feb 2012

Possibly around 4 or 5 pm.

SOme absentees might skew it a bit. I don't know if and when Michigan counts the absentee votes.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
35. the thing is, the early voting....is that factored in to the first tier. obviously not because
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 07:06 PM
Feb 2012

romney had that locked up with like 60 something percent of them.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
2. As usual be careful with exit polls.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:20 PM
Feb 2012

But this looks fairly good for Santo, this exit apparently included Absentee ballots where Romney had a big lead but he's still performing well.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
4. Amen on that
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:22 PM
Feb 2012

He does claim that he had the best exit polls for the first five primaries (could be bluster of course).

We shall see!

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
7. I think a narrow win is almost as bad for Romney as a loss...
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:30 PM
Feb 2012

after all it's his home state as he has repeatedly said.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
10. I think he will spin either
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:33 PM
Feb 2012

He will spin a loss by looking at the districts he won and saying that the "Real" republicans voted in those districts. THe Santorum robo-call for Dems will be used by Romney to poo-poo a loss. He would do the same for a narrow win.

However, the press will beat him with either a loss or narrow win and Santorum will raise his hands in victory for either.

Juicy, juicy!

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
24. Nah, he can't spin a loss.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:06 PM
Feb 2012

The media already turned their backs on him. It's been made clear that if he loses Michigan he might as well leave. And if he doesn't, he'll turn into another Gingrich; which makes him uber worthless.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
9. Polls are generally very accurate and a good indicator of whats going on in a race.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:33 PM
Feb 2012



However, exit polls are terrible. And in that absentee ballots could determine tonights winner, this makes exit polls even less reliable.

In 2004, based on exit polls, Kerry thought he had beaten Bush in Virginia. Thats how bad exit polls are.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
11. True, but it depends on the State and the methodology
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:35 PM
Feb 2012

Some states don't count those absentee ballots for a long time (if at all). If your methodology is sound then you can get a rather good idea using exit polls.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
15. Let's even say that is how it turned out--it would still represent a pretty stiff rebuke to Romney
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:09 PM
Feb 2012

if he can only win his home state by one or two points.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
16. Absolutely
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:10 PM
Feb 2012

He should be winning by double digits. Anything less than 10 points can be spun as a loss by Santorum. I think he beat the snot out of McCain last cycle in Michigan.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
17. Unfortunately, this is somewhat meaningless
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:12 PM
Feb 2012

unless it's broken down by congressional district. Michigan awards delegates on a district-by-district basis, so overall vote totals don't really tell us how each candidate is faring. (Of course, that's way too complicated for the media, which will just focus on statewide vote total.) It would be entirely possible for Romney to get fewer overall votes but walk away with nmore delegates.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
21. It could easily be a tie for delegates
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:29 PM
Feb 2012

With Santorum taking the districts in the upper peninsula and the southwest, and Romney taking the districts around Detroit. But even if they split the delegates 15/15, the media narrative will demand a "winner," and that's what we'll hear about.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
25. UPDATE - 4:30 (again...for what it is worth)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:34 PM
Feb 2012

Romney 44 Santorum 41 Paul 11 Gingrich 4. 2 things of note 1: The weather is rough in Northern Michigan, but the people who live there are tough and not sure its a factor . 2) The question is how many DEMS crossed over to try and derail Romney’s momentum.



NOTE: The above paragraph is take directly from the blog. Not my words!

Renew Deal

(81,900 posts)
27. I don't think this guy knows anything.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:44 PM
Feb 2012

44% is too high of a number for Romney. And if he doesn't know how many Dems crossed over, he doesn't know anything.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
29. ok that doesn't make any sense.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:33 PM
Feb 2012

If Gingrich is doing that badly and Romney is doing that well it's implying that his voters are going to Romney, which doesn't really make any sense.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
26. Spertino? A wrestling fanatic who is also a Romney supporter
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:44 PM
Feb 2012

I wouldn't put any trust into any of this.

Once you scroll down past all of the wrestling pairings for Ohio High Schools you find out this gem


Is Romney Perfect? No.


Lol

Major doofus.


It was pretty funny.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
30. I dont think he counting Dems or early voters
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:38 PM
Feb 2012

"Obviously my poll numbers are based on Republican voters my final prediction around 615 EST will take into consideration all last minute voters and how many Dems are estimated to vote"

http://www.billspetrino.com/2012/02/28/michigan-exit-polls-mighigan-exit-polls-2012-updated-exit-polls-michigan-gop-primary-february-28/

Not sure we can make too much out of these numbers.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
31. He said he was counting early voters.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:42 PM
Feb 2012

But apparently he is only counting Republicans.

o yes apparently MSNBCs early exit polls are showing 10% dem turnout.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
32. If he is not counting Dems then his numbers are skewed toward Romney.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:45 PM
Feb 2012

I suspect thats about 5 points to Santorum.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
33. Yeah, judging from the way Team Romney has been acting all day
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:57 PM
Feb 2012

Id say Santorum has a slight advantage right now, and they know it.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
34. It will be interesting to see how the GOPer establisment responds to a Romney loss.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 07:04 PM
Feb 2012

They have been threatening to bring in someone new. We shall see.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
39. is it just a gentlemen's agreement that the media not publish
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 07:31 PM
Feb 2012

exit polls? Or is there an actual law for it. I actually loved
it a long time ago, when they would be leaked. Drudge was
actually a great source for numbers.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
40. There is no law and often exit polls are leaked...
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:57 PM
Feb 2012

Drudge leaked exit polls leading up to the 2008 election that indicated Obama was going to win in an electoral landslide.

http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2008/11/04/20081104_234838.htm

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
41. FINAL (If they are real)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:59 PM
Feb 2012

Well his site it back up and his final exit results are:

Final numbers are Romney 41 Santorum 40 Paul 12 Gingrich 7


Now let's see how close he is.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
42. They may be real but his track record SUCKS.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:03 PM
Feb 2012

looking through his site his Missouri exit poll overstated Romney's support by 15%.


He also had Paul winning in Maine.

And Romney only 4 points behind in Minnesota

And Romney winning by 12% in Colorado.

He did ok with Romney in Florida (only a few points overstated) but overstated Newt and understated Santo and Paul.

He did not do the earlier primaries, but his site is pretty much "GO MITT, MITT WILL BE THE NEXT PRES!"

He's overstated Romney support in every state BUT Nevada.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
43. Yeah, he's a Romney supporter
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:04 PM
Feb 2012

And clearly his methodology puts a finger on the Romney scale.

But, it will be fun to see how close he is.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
44. He had Romney only narrowly losing MO, and winning CO by double digits.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:10 PM
Feb 2012

I mean I know those are harder to exit poll cause of low turnout and what not but that's more then a finger, that's a freaking anvil.

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