2016 Postmortem
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Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, can you feel the excitement? Can you feel the excitement of talking about Clinton versus Trump? We have six months to talk about it but I just can't wait to start talking about it. They are so exciting. What's he going to say? I'll bet it will be outrageous. What's SHE going to say in response? Who is going to WIN? Who is going to score rhetorical points? Omigosh, I could just pee myself with excitement.
The moment Sanders drops out or concedes, the plight of the poor, the workers, the union-less, the unemployed . .. their concerns will be consumed in the fire of this mindless babble. Sanders is trying to keep our minds focused on what is important to the people of this country - not which of the two very well-heeled horseys will win the race. His senatorial posts on Facebook last night were right on point, continuing to drive his message of economic equality home. He was talking about climate change, the corrupting influence of fossil fuel money, the retirement crisis. Those issues go right down the toilet once the horse race begins. By delaying the start of that stupid "conversation", Sanders is doing everyone a huge favor.
run, Bernie, run
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... to concern himself with progressive ideals.
ProfessorPlum
(11,285 posts)I concede.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)You folks have been chirping that nonsense from the outset, and it's never been true.
ProfessorPlum
(11,285 posts)to show the world and the US that there is another way to approach things, one that doesn't take rich people's tender fee fees into account above all else.
Winning the nomination and the presidency would have been great, but for now he can keep people talking about his broader goals, his vision for America, and the inclusiveness of this message. The education continues.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)ProfessorPlum
(11,285 posts)name recognition, the entire state and national party infrastructure in her pocket, millions of dollars from the oligarchy, a media who ignores her opponent . . .
just can't seal the deal and win the nomination outright? That's gotta be frustrating. I feel your pain.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)She needs about 200 more delegates.
That dripping sound is the life bleeding out of the Sanders campaign.
Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #13)
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CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)They're wrong, but that's what they think.
ProfessorPlum
(11,285 posts)but I would say that Sanders is the _most_ progressive.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,262 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)You are so right! Mindless babble is all we have to look forward to for the next 6 months while the world starves and burns. Trump and Clinton, how fucking rediculous we've become.
Joob
(1,065 posts)JudyM
(29,294 posts)Precise and concise.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)I suspect I will not play on the webs for a while because REALITY TV makes me ill and the campaigning of these two candidates will be like watching an episode of the kardasians or sister wves all sqeauling all the time!
ProfessorPlum
(11,285 posts)makes me wish for a cryo-tube I could program for December.
Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #15)
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mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)BootinUp
(47,230 posts)while their rhetoric and style is not very close (Bernie's and Hillary's) their positions actually are. I am confident Hillary will be able to carry forward the issues Bernie is passionate about and that Bernie will work with her to make it effective.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)so that is what we will do.
Uncle Joe
(58,595 posts)Thanks for the thread, ProfessorPlum.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)whom all of the elite racing establishment ridiculed and ignored--and who became the greatest, and most-loved, race horse of all time.
Underdog with the heart and soul of a magnificent champion, who inspired the entirety of the USA in the darkest days of the Great Depression, for the very reason that setbacks and handicaps couldn't stop him, and all of his opponents were overrated due to bias and snobbery. He looked like a cart horse. He ran like the wind.
GO BERNIE, MY SEABISCUIT!
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I can almost hear her election night music.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)NOTHING of substance will be debated or talked about. Trump, sexist pig that he is, will simply dump all sorts of misogynist crap all over Hillary, will bring up all of Bill's peccadilloes as if they were important, and blather on and on about how great and smart he is and how he will magically fix everything. Hillary, on her side, will go straight back to $12/minimum wage, compromising on a woman's right to choose, will scale back Medicare and Social Security because we can't possibly afford them while continuing to invade other countries. That is when she isn't simply accusing him of sexist nonsense.