Try being happy, for once.

Try being upbeat now and then.

Especially if you think you're winning.

The collective of Bernie fans who seem to be going through the stages of grief with a mind numbingly bizarre way of coping.

Sorry about the mix up.

It shouldn't even concern you.

You are the one with issues, I fear.

No need to feel ashamed.

Truth seems to make you upset.

It's odd, really.

Everyone on DU knows the jury system is broken so I'd take any hide with a big grain of salt

And by my estimation, for every "unfair hide" there seem to be 5 or 6 along the lines of

So the people who claim I'm "upset" are probably projecting.

Literally the only posts I see from you are complaining about Bernie and his supporters.

Happiness is a choice. Stop choosing upset and whiny and start choosing a little more happiness.

There you go. The tools to stop letting crap that doesn't matter get to you.

But I agree with your point. Life is too short for that sort of noise.

I detect a pattern.....

There are a few pathetic trends that it's easy to notice on this site. One of them is the logical fallacy of ad-hominem attacks under the guise of psychoanalysis.

Unless you are a psychologist working pro-bono and specializing in the psychology of internet posting, then give the attacks a rest.

If you dislike his/her point, then address the point. Attacking the poster just proves that you're either angry and trying to get 'revenge' by attacking them back, or that you lack the tools to actually address the point.

Got it.

Her side is allegedly winning, Bernie is supposedly on the ropes, and yet the tears are flowing like rivers.

Now go see if you can cheer up the OP.

DU word police. How special.

... and he tried and lost with a couple of tactical errors.

Hundreds of delegates and millions of votes ahead.

I'm very happy.
It will only get better at the convention
when Hillary wins on the first ballot.

Then Bernie has no more appeals to make.
He'll have been soundly rejected.

His 15 minutes will be up and he can go back his
senate seat while his more robust supporters
go back to wherever they came from.

Hillary's got this in the bag.

I'm very happy.

She's having a terrible time.

JaneyVee knows Hillary has this in the bag.

Bernie's getting crushed because 3 million more Democratic voters
find him untrustworthy.

Big promises. No real plan.

It'll be over soon.

Hillary's got this.

Be careful what you wish for.

Wishes just being wishes.

Like the faithful still wishing that Hillary somehow
wasn't beating Bernie by hundreds of deleagtes and millions of votes.


Hillary's got this one in the bag tho.

I'd actually like him to, after the two national party conventions and the election, hold a convention for this new movement to establish goals and set up an organizational structure and then work towards getting dems elected in 2018 as has been floated about.

That would be a good way to harness the energy of his supporters who are serious about continuing on. It could work as the fundraising structure is already there. They could be formidable.

I hope something like that happens and the movement doesn't evaporate like Occupy did because they had, purposely, no organizational structure.

that it would be good for Bernie to continue to
rally his supporters and work on developing
the movement he's started.

Sadly the smarter bet is that after the convention
the movement just drifts away a little bit at a time.

I say that because like most people who aren't political junkies
when the election is over they'll go back to their lives and put
politics on the backburner until the next presidential election.

A small percentage of them are part of the Anybody but Hillary group
and after she's president they won't have any further need for Bernie.

There's also a big difference between the factions within the coalition.
Some are mostly concerned with Enviro issue others with economic issues
or social justice issues.
When one ser of issues starts to become the clear priority
the supporters whose pet issue is being moved to the back will
probably move on.

Of course a lot of his supporters are activists and will stay involved the way
most activists do.
They'll champion issues and work where they can to make a difference
but those people are already doing that anyway.

Sorry if I came off as negative.
I'm really not negative at all but I have seen movements come and go.
They don't usually blow up so much as fade away.

I think it will be very difficult to keep the Bernie
coalition together after November.

with an actual platform outlining it's areas of concern.

Why that sounds almost like a . . . a . . . a political party.

Now let the nutty-fest begin.

Thank you for the insult. Please keep them coming.

Click on my bio.

Is it a seasonal job?

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Trump will take her to the cleaners and make her pay the bill. I agree he isn't kind towards women. Both parties are having to come to grips with this situation. The polls steadily have shown that Bernie beats him soundly.

And, even though it's sexist, Trump won't treat him like he would HRC. But then again, Bernie isn't such a scandal-rich target.

What is ironic "stop looking for ways to subvert democracy...yada yada...and only vote for Hillary" I think you meant to say ways to subvert the Establishment Democratic Party.

I might add, what a hysterical post. Yikes.

Bernie isn't going to be the nominee.
Sorry.

Hillary stemarolled Bernie.

Hundreds more delegates and millions more votes.

Those are actual votes. Not theoretical votes based on rally attendance
or number of bumper stickers and yard signs.

There were primary elections.
Bernie lost.

But his movement is not to be trifled with as irrelevant. Disregard at your peril.

Hillary's baggage car is going to not only be stopped, but rifled through in national spotlight. Trump is hoping for Hillary...Bernie won't be nearly as much fun for him.

That's how many people see him.

He had no good answers about how he'd get his ideas thru
congress.

When economists broke down his plans it revealed a pretty
steep tax increase for everybody.

Trump and Hillarys baggage will cancel each other out.

Anybody not a hardcore progressive looks at Bernie and says No Thanks.

The Democratic Primary voters have already turned Bernie and his agenda down.

But I do have a perverse interest in watching two 1%ers battle it out. I do think Bernie does not have the intense warfare attack needed for what is ahead. And for that, I feel bad. A good person, with a consistent record, and refusing to hit HRC on emails because he likes her...yeah, that's not 2016 politics, I fear.

But Trump...he's got Hillary dead to rights, with the same fear. She's coasting on the cloud that Bernie didn't try and demolish her. Trump relishes the thought. She's no match for him, I fear. His baggage is out and pretty much accounted for. Hers, not so much. She's going to face some reality that her comfy, privileged Democratic nest has provided for a very long time. Bill too, for that matter. Republicans don't forget or forgive.

Here's what I do know.
And this is a checkable fact.

Hillary is crushing Bernie.
Not just beating him. Crushing him.
She has more than double the lead in pledged delegates
than President Obama had in 2008.

Bernie appeals to the hardcore progressives and the Democratic Socialists.
Oh and white males.

Every other demographic in the Democratic coalition has soundly rejected him.
Women, African Americans, Latinos, and older voters.

They took a look at Bernie, listened to what he had to say
and then voted for Hillary.

That same coalition will turn out for her in the GE.
She'll add to that coalition with moderate Republicans
who won't vote for a buffoon like Trump and Republican women.

Current polls have red states like Georgia and North Carolina in play.
And Hillary was already polling ahead of Trump in any case.

Hillary is going to be our next president.
Wishing it wasn't going to be so isn't going to change that
anymore than wishful thinking is going to make Bernie our nominee.

Bernie lost.

But the White House? I don't think so. She's got pretty much the Establishment Democrats. This foray into Republican Donor Land with her Bush Buddies is going to hurt her with the new folks that Bernie brought in, and those, like me who are not fond of her politics as a Hawk, and other myriad of problems.

The Republican Establishment hates her with an unreasonable passion. And who knows what the Independents will do. My feeling is that they will see the Impeachment Future and decide not to play, but I'm not as sure as you are with your crystal ball. I don't have one.

The first coronation was set back. That we know. We'll have to wait and see if there is another.

with anybody who isn't already BoB.

She'll beat Trump worse than she beat Bernie.

Most people aren't 1 issue voters.

They don't care about the progressives issues.

It is not the email issue, which is far from over. It's not even much about Trump, other than he will relish the chance to rub her nose in every scandal she's been involved in.

I have no clue what the "1 issue" is you are referring to. There are a myriad of issues, many of which she brings herself...it's called baggage. And Trump is further to the Left on some things than she is. She's not a Progressive. She's a Moderate Centrist...in her own words and in her actions.

And proof is not needed. She has a pattern, the Clintons have a reputation, and Trump can not be touched...he doesn't care about their power. That's what will be interesting.

The Democratic Party Establishment pooped in their nest on this one. Bernie was not nearly as vulnerable, but oh well.

Save your breath. I've tried to have a productive conversation with griffi...

Just too angry. He's into politics for "the win". Nothing else.

Time to send Bernie back to Vermont.

Some people are into politics because they have a grasp of the world around them.

Others don't understand politics and just want the same feeling as a football game. Like Trump supporters or janeyvee and griffi here.

Ignore the slow ones and engage the wise ones.

frontrunners. Someone took a video of him screaming and the media played it and played it...it was called the Dean Scream. He never recovered politically. And it wasn't an angry scream, as I recall, a couple of times it was shown in context and seemed like a boisterous scream.

He was a good man and a good candidate and just like the Swiftboating of John Kerry, the MSM machine did him in. That's what they do to decent candidates when they are empowered by whatever.

ETA: I think ultimately we'll find that's what happened to Bernie...another good, honest, candidate. They don't respect those who don't slice and dice each other up. Doesn't make for "news at 11".

Not just an error of judgement, but a clear factual error. The polls show that Clinton will beat Trump by a solid margin.

ETA:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

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Poll Date Sample MoE
Sanders (D)
Trump (R)
Spread
RCP Average 4/8 - 4/28 -- -- 51.6 38.0 Sanders +13.6
IBD/TIPP 4/22 - 4/28 814 RV 3.5 50 38 Sanders +12
USA Today/Suffolk 4/20 - 4/24 1000 LV 3.0 52 37 Sanders +15
GWU/Battleground 4/17 - 4/20 1000 LV 3.1 50 40 Sanders +10
FOX News 4/11 - 4/13 1021 RV 3.0 53 39 Sanders +14
CBS News 4/8 - 4/12 1098 RV 3.0 53 36 Sanders +17

ETA:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Real Clear Politics

Poll Date Sample MoE
Sanders (D)
Trump (R)
Spread
RCP Average 4/8 - 4/28 -- -- 51.6 38.0 Sanders +13.6
IBD/TIPP 4/22 - 4/28 814 RV 3.5 50 38 Sanders +12
USA Today/Suffolk 4/20 - 4/24 1000 LV 3.0 52 37 Sanders +15
GWU/Battleground 4/17 - 4/20 1000 LV 3.1 50 40 Sanders +10
FOX News 4/11 - 4/13 1021 RV 3.0 53 39 Sanders +14
CBS News 4/8 - 4/12 1098 RV 3.0 53 36 Sanders +17

The state polling for Clinton has been even better than the national polling in the Clinton v Trump matchup.

1. ) Infiltrated Bernie's campaign

Just win baby.

Hillary is winning by hundreds of delegates and millions of votes.

They will wake up in time and see the true Hillary republican-lite.

That's why she's crushing Bernie with hundreds more
delegates and 3 million more votes.

Democratic primary voters just like Hillary
better than they like Bernie.

Sanders ego is running things now...

KnR!

The only caveat is if for some reason Hillary is forced out before California (not likely) and Bernie gets all the allotted delegates.

If the indictment fairy does indeed show up it will only help Biden or Trump.

can be president of Vermont hahaha.

This thing is supposed to be sewn up. What gives?

...can be highly traumatic. Ease off.

Im just here to remind you that Hillary is winning fair and square.

And to collect a little bit more money.

Even Bernie knows he doesn't have a prayer.
That's why he didn't dismiss the talk about being Hillarys VP out of hand.
Letting that possibility hang out there extends his 15 minutes a bit longer.

Hillary is crushing him.
She has hundreds more delegates and 3 million more votes.

Have you considered group therapy?

I was responding to a question about why the primary hadn't
been put away yet.

But all they seem to want to do is stop their feet and yell in GDP. It's weird, isnt it?

Then it'll sink like a rock.

But I picture you repeating over and over "Hillary is the best candidate, Hillary is the best candidate."

How about this mantra, "Goldman-Sachs cares about the poor, Goldman-Sachs cares about the poor."

needed at this point if you've got it sewed up?

maybe you should see to your own house. Just one point, there are more. Why in every post I read here tonight are we being called paid posters. Shills. Do you or do you not think that hateful?

I think the Clinton supporters are still worried and that's why they keep attacking.

Got it. Bye.

all of a sudden, at the end of the campaign, decided to join DU and not pay?

Here's an online thesaurus.
Maybe it can help with some new creative insults, my friend.
Good luck!

http://www.thesaurus.com

There, balance is restored.

We've heard it and dismiss you.

I agree completely. I am so sick of the whining and blackmail attempts.

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Best Irony: "Stop looking for ways to subvert democracy and the will of the people"

Greatest Delusion: "Hillary is winning the primary fair and square (and spending a lot less money doing so)"

I'd say, even, an INORDINATE amount of time.

Do you really believe what you write?

With only a quarter-century lead in name recognition, a mountain of Big Money and connections at every level of the party, yes, she is defeating a relative unknown new to the party, and who turned down the easy money.

None of this is to say she won't or shouldn't be nominated, or that Sanders shouldn't have started a decade ago, but..."fair and square"? Maybe.