2016 Postmortem
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(10,597 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Doesn't change the fact that Hillary is a hardcore lib.
A fact is still a fact even if you wish it wasn't.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... and I'll spin it mine. Here's a fact for you: HRC/WJC sold their liberal souls down the river when they paraded in the DLC in sheep's clothing back in the '90s. HRC is hardcore Third Way/DLC/GrandBargain/Neoliberal/NewDemocrat/Progressive Policy Institute.
But hardcore Liberal she is not.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Cutting deals with the MIC...F-35?
Getting cozy with big gun manufacturers maybe?
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)That's mean.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)back to 1970 - a very long time.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Liberal used to be dog whistle for blacks, feminism, LGBT, unions, hippies, academics and otehr undesirables.
The Clinton wing purposely put distance between themselves and those "liberal special interests" in the 80's and 90's, as part of DLC re positioning.
How soon we forget.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Thanks for contributing your interpretation.
cali
(114,904 posts)All votes are not equal
Faux pas
(14,717 posts)and I'm the Queen of the World.
MgtPA
(1,022 posts)So...where would you put Bernie?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)FBaggins
(26,799 posts)That's almost as unbelievable add the OP
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)Used here for many years.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)I've seen this graph, wasn't sure where it came from.
Hare Krishna
(58 posts)+1
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)She's about as liberal as the sea is dry.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...but that doesn't make it liberal.
Rating liberality according to the profoundly conservative business of our government is a recipe for fallacy.
Hillary Clinton has shown some liberal leanings, but is center-rightish otherwise. Calling her liberal is not the way to get her to change.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Whatever that is
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Six years. So pro-union, pro-worker, progressives and liberal they are Buy Partisan.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Before this, from 1932-1976, the Democratic Party as a whole was far more progressive. The issues and approaches advocated today by Bernie Sanders were considered mainstream Democratic ideas by Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson, and even many moderate Republicans. It was common to support strict financial regulation, liberal immigration, social services for the poor, and progressive tax policies.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-brasunas/there-is-a-moderate-republican-in-this-race_b_9704194.html
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,035 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)I haven't found a more recent poll.
Look where the registered voters placed themselves on the scale versus Clinton, etc. on the idiological placement of the candidates
Now imagine where Sanders is on that scale.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)and I'm going to keep saying it until you believe me.
andym
(5,447 posts)http://www.ontheissues.org/Bernie_Sanders.htm
Not a bad website, gives quotes, actions and dates on each issue.
Bernie is 100% on Social Issues. Hilary is 80% liberal. Bernie is more liberal than Hillary, which is obvious.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)dflprincess
(28,095 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Until it turns out so is Hillary.