2016 Postmortem

George II

(67,782 posts) Wed May 11, 2016, 03:47 PM May 2016

Remaining Primaries/Caucuses - not exactly Sanders' wheelhouse:

11 to go, four of which are closed primaries, three semi-closed primaries, one open primary, two closed caucuses, and one open primary.

Kentucky - Closed primary - 55 (5) delegates (SDs)
Oregon - Closed primary - 61 (13) delegates (SDs)
Virgin Islands - Closed caucus - 7 (5) delegates (SDs)
Puerto Rico - Open primary - 60 (7) delegates (SDs)
California - Semi-closed primary - 475 (73) delegates (SDs)
Montana - Open primary - 21 (6) delegates (SDs)
New Jersey - Semi-closed primary - 126 (16) delegates (SDs)
New Mexico - Closed primary - 34 (9) delegates (SDs)
North Dakota - Open caucus - 18 (5) delegates (SDs)
South Dakota - Semi-closed primary - 20 (5) delegates (SDs)
District of Columbia - Closed primary - 20 (26) delegates (SDs)

Of the 170 Superdelegates, 102 have committed to Clinton, 0 to Sanders.

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Remaining Primaries/Caucuses - not exactly Sanders' wheelhouse: (Original Post) George II May 2016 OP

I believe NJ presidential primaries are closed. hrmjustin May 2016 #1

I thought so too, but I got this from The Green Papers, who seem to be the experts.... George II May 2016 #4

NJ, unaffiliated can chg to Dem same day. Same in DC. pat_k May 2016 #5

In state wide races independents can vote but not in the pres primary. hrmjustin May 2016 #6

Unaffiliated can declare party up to and including election day according to this: pat_k May 2016 #9

I was doing it from memory. This might have been a recent change. hrmjustin May 2016 #10

Confirmation. A specific discussion of presidential primary pat_k May 2016 #11

Thanks for finding it. hrmjustin May 2016 #12

Used to live there. Wondered myself. pat_k May 2016 #13

The Oregon race is the interesting one given that poll this week with HRC up double digits. LonePirate May 2016 #2

747 in effectively "open" elections, 150 in "closed" pat_k May 2016 #3

DC has 20 delegates but 26 SuperD's?? Thats NorthCarolina May 2016 #7

No it isn't. George II May 2016 #8

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

1. I believe NJ presidential primaries are closed.

Reply to George II (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:57 PM

May 2016

George II

(67,782 posts)

4. I thought so too, but I got this from The Green Papers, who seem to be the experts....

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:34 PM

May 2016

...on these things.

They say it is open to party members and independents. That's not good, too close to Trump country (NYC) and Christie is bound to be pulling shenanigans with "republicans".

pat_k

(9,313 posts)

5. NJ, unaffiliated can chg to Dem same day. Same in DC.

Reply to George II (Reply #4)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:37 PM

May 2016

So in a sense these primaries are "closed" in that only Dems are voting. But since you can become a Dem on election day, they are effectively open.

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

6. In state wide races independents can vote but not in the pres primary.

Reply to George II (Reply #4)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:40 PM

May 2016

pat_k

(9,313 posts)

9. Unaffiliated can declare party up to and including election day according to this:

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #6)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:32 PM

May 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unaffiliated_(New_Jersey)

New Jersey is a closed primary state.[2] This means that only voters who affiliate with a political party may vote in that party's candidate selection process (i.e., the primary election). However, unaffiliated voters may declare their party affiliation up to and including the day of the primary election.[1] Unaffiliated status does not affect participation in general elections.

There is no exception noted for presidential primaries. Do you have a citation?

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

10. I was doing it from memory. This might have been a recent change.

Reply to pat_k (Reply #9)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:34 PM

May 2016

pat_k

(9,313 posts)

11. Confirmation. A specific discussion of presidential primary

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #10)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:47 PM

May 2016

Wikipedia is not always the best resource. I also wondered about how convenient the declaration process was (do you have to go out of your way to county clerk or something). Looks like you can fill out declaration form at the polls.

If you are an Undeclared voter (or what some erroneously call "Independent&quot

, you may declare your affiliation up to and including primary election day - right at the polling place – and cast your ballot in that party's race. If you are voting in your very first primary, you can declare your party affiliation at the polls.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/03/when_is_the_new_jersey_primary_and_whats_the_deadl.html

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

12. Thanks for finding it.

Reply to pat_k (Reply #11)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:50 PM

May 2016

pat_k

(9,313 posts)

13. Used to live there. Wondered myself.

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #12)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:52 PM

May 2016

LonePirate

(13,448 posts)

2. The Oregon race is the interesting one given that poll this week with HRC up double digits.

Reply to George II (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:16 PM

May 2016

Oregon has a much higher than average voter participation rate combined with the closed primary contest makes this one a wildcard. I don't think she wins by double digits, if she wins at all. However, if she does win by double digits, which is certainly possible in a closed primary, the primary race is over as Bernie must win big in Oregon.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)

3. 747 in effectively "open" elections, 150 in "closed"

Reply to George II (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:00 PM

May 2016

No too bad

Closed
05/17 -- KY -- 55 Delegates (Primary; Deadline to change 12/31/15)
05/17 -- OR -- 61 Delegates (Primary; Deadline to change 04/26/16)
06/07 -- NM -- 34 Delegates (Primary; Deadline to change 05/10/16)

Effectively Open
06/04 -- Vir Is -- 7 Delegates (Caucuses; Open)
06/05 -- PR -- 60 Delegates (Primary; Open)
06/07 -- CA -- 475 Delegates (Primary; Dem or Unaffiliated)
06/07 -- MT -- 21 Delegates (Primary; Open)
06/07 -- NJ -- 126 Delegates (Primary; Dem or Chg election day)
06/07 -- ND -- 18 Delegates (Caucuses; Open)
06/07 -- SD -- 20 Delegates (Primary; Dem or Unaffiliated)
06/14 -- DC -- 20 Delegates (Primary; Dem or Chg election day)

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)

7. DC has 20 delegates but 26 SuperD's?? Thats

Reply to George II (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:42 PM

May 2016

pretty fucked up right there.

George II

(67,782 posts)

8. No it isn't.

Reply to NorthCarolina (Reply #7)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:09 PM

May 2016

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