2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPetition: Clinton Must Drop Out Due to FBI Investigations; NO Joe Biden Indictment Replacement
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LexVegas
(6,121 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Btw, if there were to be an indictment after the convention Biden or someone else would be the nominee. Unlikely it would be Bernie.
Buzz cook
(2,474 posts)If the fever dreams of his supporters was realized and Clinton was removed. Having that many delegates does mean something.
Having Biden or some other party insider get the nod might be enough to throw the election.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)In that case the DNC would likely select the nominee.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)They would rather see Trump win than Bernie
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I wonder if she's single?
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)most Sanders supporters are discussing. I was a delegate at our District Convention and these views (and the topic of the FBI investigation) were frequently discussed.
Setting that aside, it would be interesting to know the party rules on this. My understanding is that Clinton's pledged delegates are hers. She has earned them. They won't go to Bernie, by default. They are not his. Clinton can instructor her delegates to support another candidate. Chances are, most of her national pledged delegates would follow her lead.
This is why I strongly believe our party should be openly discussing this. Shouldn't we at least familiarize ourselves with the rules and talk about possible outcomes?
I think a lot of Bernie supporters erroneously believe that if Clinton is out, Bernie is the nominee by default. It's my understanding that this is not the case.
I think FOR THE GOOD IF OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY--we need to have open discussions without people ridiculing others for bringing up the subject. There's too much at stake!
Just my 2 cents.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)A few fries short of a Happy Meal.
The elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.
Coo coo for Cocoa Puffs.
And so on.
Her comments/views should be viewed exclusively through that lens.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)brooklynite
(95,007 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)And the marks.....er, signatories ... are so eager to participate in their own present and future fleecing! Yes, let me give them my NAME, my personal details, because they'll DO something with this....like it MATTERS!!!!! GRRR! They're FIGHTING the POWER, doncha know!!!
Lambs to the slaughter! Yeah, they'll do something with it, all right--they'll create a database of marks! A well of discontented, out-of-sorts grumblers who are good for a few bucks in response to the latest outrage, over and over again. Hey, gotta make sure the well is in good working order, because those four years without rainfall are long and hard! If the well is dug deep enough, MoveON can still drink it all in! Gotta pay those salaries, cover those expenses, pay for all that "fundraising," after all!
MoveON has really devolved into another crew that should just cut the pretense, and adopt the slogan:
[center] [font color="red" size="20" face="Impact"]Don't Send Money...Send PLENTY!!![/font]
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)jcgoldie
(11,662 posts)To nominate Sanders even though he gets far less votes. Isn't that what the intention of all this crap is?
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Faux pas
(14,714 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)jzodda
(2,124 posts)All that wishful thinking over the email non story that even Bernie has stated NOBODY GIVES A DAMN.
How many emails were retroactively classified? huh? The entire premise of the petition is null and void. She won't be indicted, the President has said as much.
Give it up...
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Stop pretending and go educate yourself. Some of us know something about it.
synergie
(1,901 posts)and we know that there has been no evidence of any wrong doing. Stop clinging to silliness and go educate yourself from credible sources, Fox is leading you astray.
Exactly what law did Hillary Clinton break? Exactly what evidence do you have to prove up an indictment?
I'll answer for you. You have no idea what law Hillary Clinton broke, and you have zero evidence to prove up anything except your hatred of Hillary Clinton.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They get new names, they add the names to the list, they put out their pleas for fundraising, because ONLY MoveON understands YOU and how YOU feel about IMPORTANT issues!!!
Tug at your heartstrings, tug at your wallet!
Those clowns don't make $666K bucks a year for putting up these MoveOn petitions for nothing--they EARN their money! They even go out of their way to make sure your ISP won't block 'em, too--so they can get to you with their pleas for cash!
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expenditures.php?cmte=C00341396&cycle=2016
https://personaldemocracy.com/company-reviews-2010/we-also-walk-dogs
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)She's very good. She needs a slot on SNL. My sides were splitting. Very good performance art.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)MineralMan
(146,351 posts)Equally inaccurate and irrelevant, too.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #28)
NCTraveler This message was self-deleted by its author.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Her and Goodman certainly aren't the best representatives you can have out there.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Others don't seem to care that it's going down.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Which is why they're digging into the deep gutter of stuff like Fox and National Review and more to make the point.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)so they give this thing publicity.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You're known by the company you keep, n'est pas?
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)You guys sure like the crazy tinfoil nutters, eh?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)progressive community as much of an abject failure as the GOP/Tea Party crew of nutcases.
procon
(15,805 posts)should just drop out so he can run unopposed to the victory circle. Since he apparently can't get there on his own, is this the best solution his fan club can think of to beat Hillary.
Awesome.
still_one
(92,526 posts)JohnnyLib2
(11,212 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)LMAO BS. Lets let Sanders win irrespective of the # of votes or delegates
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Thanks.
amborin
(16,631 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I believe she was trolling du at one point in time she claims she was lynched here. Does anyone know who she was here before being given the boot?
"I knew it was all over. That is when I immediately began posting stories about how we were duped by Obama on DU and I was lynched by the community." That is from the questionably Sane Progressive.
Her political writings are absolutely horrendous.
Response to NCTraveler (Reply #24)
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Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)steal it?
Remember what happened to the Dept of Justice THE VERY day those crooks took over?
If the GOP is successful with Drumpf, you wont recognize any part of this country in a matter of DAYS.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)the OP and others are actually serious about this! They actually think signing an online petition will make Hillary Clinton drop out!!
Hillary: OMG! An online petition! From Moveon!!!! I must drop out IMMEDIATELY! The People (aka "nutters" have spoken!
dchill
(38,626 posts)who is under FBI investigation for crimes. FBI investigations are serious. There's no such thing as a "security inquiry. She should never even have run for the office. She should drop out, for the good of the party, let alone the country.
Bernie can beat Trump, which makes him unique, but that's another issue.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Link, please, from non-RW sources.
dchill
(38,626 posts)or parking tickets. They also, apparently, do not do "security inquiries." It's the Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATION. Therefore, one can logically assume crimes are involved. I'm taking it a step further and assuming they weren't all committed by Human Abedin.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)No surprise there. I'm done with you.
Tarc
(10,478 posts)Still has the same nutty ideas as always.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)In the checkout line at Whole Foods. She follows you out to your car, where you lock yourself in. She keeps on talking, raising her voice as you drive away thinkiing, "Next time I'm shopping at Vons."
senz
(11,945 posts)Everyone, and everything, else can go hang.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Debbie is against being judged by a jury? So all the republicans have to do is throw out some wild accusations and your job, reputation and life in general is over?
Screw that. That's mob rule. It sure as hell isn't democracy.
Debbie loves dictatorships apparently. My how "progressive" of her.
coffeeAM
(180 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I have ten people on ignore. I see 32 replies, yet there are double the replies without ignore. Also, I have been amazed at the way she gets our Hillbots totally up in a huff. They are in such denial it's clinical. It's very clear to me that they've left the Democratic party, and are in the wilderness, between parties.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Nobody will say it but this white poster will...
We should ignore the votes of people of color and women who have given Hillary a 3,000,000 vote lead because a bunch of privileged white fauxgressives want her to.
HELL. TO. THE. NO.