2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPPP AZ: Trump 40, Hillary 38
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_AZ_51716.pdflibdem4life
(13,877 posts)It's hard to watch this and stay neutral, even while supporting a candidate.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)polling within the margin of error of a con is BAD news in Arizona? How new are you to politics? Let' see, the last time AZ voted for a Dem was 1996 (Bill Clinton), the time before that, 1948.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and neither Hillary or donnie has laid a glove on him - he's thoroughly unvetted so his poll numbers for the general are completely meaningless. You are free to believe whatever fantasy you wish.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)I do believe they have some dirt on Jane, and some votes in the Senate Dems don't like and regardless of the gun controversy, apparently the NRA shills for him giving him a D-...it's all pretty much come out.
Brock attacks are not vetting. Just pure smear and that wasn't part of the conversation.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Like I've said before, you're free to believe whatever fantasy you wish.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Kind of like Hillary, I was raised by Republicans and was a Nixon Girl until I went to, imagine, Nixon's Whittier, California alma mater and converted to a Liberal Democrat and never looked back. We hung him in effigy. He was not popular there, either.
You asked. I embellished a bit.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)think a Democrat polling within the margin of error is a bad thing in Arizona? You should know better than to spread bullshit like that.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)within the MOE. There or nationally. I'm cringing already at the likely matchup after the Primary.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)vetted, I would agree with you. Meanwhile, neither Hillary or donnie has laid a glove on him. The shitstorm that would occur would mean a 49 state loss like the McGovern race - and for the exact same reason.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)some level just in case the "other factors" end up badly for her.
Also, I don't think Biden or some other Establishment Dem could come in...too many Bernie supporters. Biden doesn't want it. Elizabeth Warren's family put the nix on it way back when because a family gets dragged through it, as well. (read that early on)
Going to be interesting. Thanks for your comments.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)he should stay in until the primaries were over. I've never said different. But after that, he's only hurting Hillary AND the party. Since he used the party to further his own career, I think he owes it to them to try his best not to do that.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)to challenge HRC, he wouldn't have wanted to run. They got Coronation Fever, IMO. His candidacy was created inside that vacuum.
TexasTowelie
(112,755 posts)if she can pick up a red state like Arizona.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)HILL YES!!!!
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Bring on Julian Castro?
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Their delicious, salty tears.
Jude the Obscure
(50 posts)I think I will take Bernie, thanks.