2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHardball confirms, there was violence, there were chairs thrown.
Roberta Lange confirmed that chairs were thrown. Jon Ralston said that multiple eyewitnesses confirmed that there were chairs thrown.
Just the fact that instead of being aghast at the death threats and the sexist slurs, the Bernie people are trying to deny the widely reported fact that there was violence says quite a bit. But, yes, there were most definitely chairs thrown at the Nevada convention.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
YouDig
(2,280 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Everybody's got cameras on there cell phones. I find it impossible to believe no one in a crowd of thousands caught the flying chairs on camera.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)All we have to date is insinuation.
Maru Kitteh
(28,350 posts)This is an obscure reference, but if you ever watched "Everybody Loves Raymond" there was an episode where they meet a nice couple who has this poorly-adjusted, super-annoying little asshole of a kid that of course the parents think is a GENIUS.
Whenever the kid was given a rule or was told anything he didn't like, he just did a stupid robot voice and said it didn't "compute." Kind of reminds me of some folks around here.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)WhiteTara
(29,739 posts)so many people now live under it!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
WhiteTara
(29,739 posts)and I know you are upset.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Stryguy
(209 posts)This is just someone handing a chair to someone else in a friendly fashion.
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cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Snarkoleptic
(6,002 posts)I'm astonished that the "thrown chair" is such a focus, in light of the mischief of the party chair.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1
panader0
(25,816 posts)Who was arrested? There must have been quite a few arrests with so much violence.
Matthews is/was a Bush lover and is currently a Shillary.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...you don't think that's odd at all? And the guy who initially reported that there was chair throwing is now saying he didn't see it either. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511984196)
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)In a vegas casino ....no video.....hmmm
Kind of leans toward didnt happen when i factor in routine vegas security camera activity
Casino video has been used in court as evidence .....hummph...such a lack of video is questionable at best.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...and yet...
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Every square in h inside and out was under surveillance
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Tweety says we will know chairs were thrown when we see the video.
Ralston said he was not there to see any chair thrown. He walked it back.
Were you there?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)It's weird that you would repeatedly omit that Ralston confirmed that multiple witnesses saw chairs thrown. I know you saw it, and I know that you know that Ralston didn't walk anything back. It'll be on youtube soon.
What game are you playing?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)disorderly conduct at the very least ......... assult if some of the more imaginative stories I've read were true
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SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)A room in a vegas casino filled with camera phones and neither hotel security or independant video shows this happening.
Sure thing
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Eyewitness accounts are allowed in a court of law.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Too funny.
frylock
(34,825 posts)We would've heard by now how the police are using the video evidence to ID the assailants. Just more lying bullshit, like Bernie boys chanting "english only".
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)for liars desperate to smear Sanders.
davidlynch
(644 posts)But Bernie supporters stopped him and calmed him down. They gave him a group hug and hugged him down from his anger.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)davidlynch
(644 posts)Some evidence, here you go.
frylock
(34,825 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Oh, wait....
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I know there was some abhorrent behavior but it seems things are being called facts when they are not.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)But Roberta Lange said chairs were thrown, and Jon Ralston said he wasn't there at the end when the chairs were thrown, but multiple witnesses saw it.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Anybody who watched the video of the roll call votes KNOWS that she has no credibility.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)dchill
(38,641 posts)It's my goto show for crap news! But I don't watch it. HRC folk bring me updates!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Capehart and Ralston are scummy shills... NOT journalists.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)that was very funny
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Hundreds/thousands of people in the hall with the press and not a single person has video? In 2016?
Anyone who made any kind of actual death threat should be arrested.
dchill
(38,641 posts)There were plenty of cops there.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)If someone picked up a chair and threw it down in anger, maybe they wouldn't be arrested.
But so far there's no proof of either scenario.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)like it was a riot and everyone was throwing chairs.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)soon. In fact, I'm already getting kinda excited about it!
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Are you certain?
I wouldn't bet a red cent on that.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)No credibility at all.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)that the ACA will never pass via the sidecar bill.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)They did that without even consulting the famous photographer who took them or or Bernie. I don't believe a word I hear on Hardball after that, Chris still has Capehart on so Chris is fine with unchecked, fully fictional gossip presented as journalism.
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I am sorry for you.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)In this day and age? Talk about your low info voters. Where are these "eye witnesses"? They certainly aren't being interviewed on MSM.
Where are the injured people from the riot?
That's right, they don't exist because it didn't happen.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Response to YouDig (Original post)
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mcar
(42,478 posts)cannot be condemned. It they were HRC supporters, people here would be screaming about it from the rooftops.
Why is it so hard to say - they were wrong?
beedle
(1,235 posts)someone shot at it while Bernie was in town.
No one was screaming from the rooftops blaming Hillary ... and to boot, there were no Hillary supporters condemning random Hillary supporter actions.
As soon as there is evidence that something 'wrong' was done, then feel free to ask for a condemnation .. PS. yelling at the chair of a convention that is spitting in the face of democratic practices is not 'wrong' ... it's free speech in the face of anti-democratic practices.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Thus no video, no audio, nothing. Just mindless drama from Hillary supporters.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)terrorizing real Democrats.
jillan
(39,451 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)It will go away with lack of attention....
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Tell Tweety to get his head out of his ass and witness this -
Peregrine Took
(7,421 posts)A CHAIR was thrown??? Or possibly TWO chairs were 'thrown?"
Never before in the long, ugly history of American politics has this atrocity been heard of!!!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)... will get you a blow job in Washington, DC
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)is there video of the calls needed.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)www.democraticunderground.com/12511984971
YouDig
(2,280 posts)other than a chair being hurled, then it never happened? Does that video also prove that the moon landing was faked?
#bernielogic
arcane1
(38,613 posts)#puppetlogic
YouDig
(2,280 posts)But I do concede, there are a lot of videos on youtube of something other than a chair being thrown. But with the logic I'm seeing from Bernie people, I'm starting to understand why he's getting demolished in the votes.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Puppet says what?
.99center
(1,237 posts)By everyone in the room, to quit recording just before the chairs were thrown and the riot erupted. After the violence everyone was instructed that it was safe to start recording.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)This is very basic logic. If something is on video, unless it's doctored, then it happened. But if it's not on video, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not complicated.
And certainly, a video showing something other than a chair being thrown doesn't prove that no chairs were ever thrown.
#bernielogic is being taken to the extreme today!
.99center
(1,237 posts)There are a lot of videos shot by Sanders supporters. Apparently they put the phones down
before picking up the chairs. Multiple reports, and save your Brock conspiracy theories for people who believe them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1984696
You made this argument under an hour ago, did you forget, or just throwing shit out there?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)You'd have to ask the people there. We know for a fact that there were chairs thrown, which is all that matters.
.99center
(1,237 posts)You're just throwing shit out there, got it.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)I'm not interested in conspiracy theories. Except as entertainment. And they are entertaining.
.99center
(1,237 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)report something, and then two different people confirm it on MSNBC, the conspiracy theory is believing that all those people are orchestrated by David Brock.
.99center
(1,237 posts)And the quality of the article. As far as MSNBC and the other networks, they just spout whatever is in print without bothering to investigate the claims they're making.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)So Bernie supporters have phones and Hillary supporters don't? Is that what he's saying?
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)The woman who made her own motion, seconded it, approved it, banged the gavel, & ran? Yeah, she's credible.
Still no photos or video of the chair throwing, yet there's video of everything else.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)The chairs thrown, the death threats, the sexist slurs.
How many are there awaiting trial?
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)that anyone would believe anything Roberta Lange has to say?
Seriously?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)And it's a good thing, too, because they'd be unqualified
bunnies
(15,859 posts)It must be true!!!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)you're either lying or gullible. It's a political smear from a foul campaign.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)that leaves violence as thee only option.
The NV debacle clearly indicates that the NV Democratic leadership failed to run this convention transparently and fairly thus creating an atmosphere of confusion and lack of faith in their ability to lead.