2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOver 4,000 Bernie votes disappear in KY but Sanders supporters need a psychologist?
Um....sure.
Meanwhile in a town called "Reality".
Anne Marie shared the following photo of the same thing happening while she was watching, between 9:15 and 9:33 p.m. (Were not sure of the timezones for these posts.) In this time frame, his count went from 207,278 to 205,576:
Sanders supporters noticed that he mysteriously lost 2,000 to 5,000 votes during the primary. The exact time this happened varied depending on which source you were watching. On The Guardian, between 6:25 and 6:30 p.m., his vote count changed from 210,228 to 205,576.
smiley
(1,432 posts)Little things like democracy are of no concern to those cheerleading for Hillary Clinton.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)And it's sad.
SO many excuses, so little action.
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Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)REALITY-BASED Community
Those of us in the REALITY-BASED Community cannot afford to forget THIS:
.The aide said that guys like me were in what we call the reality-based community, which he defined as people who believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. Thats not the way the world really works anymore, he continued. Were an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while youre studying that reality judiciously, as you will well act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and thats how things will sort out. Were historys actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.
Without a Doubt By RON SUSKIND October 17, 2004- pg 6
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C05EFD8113BF934A25753C1A9629C8B63&pagewanted=1
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PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)....and they keep any opposition from commenting on their 'reality' by posting in a monoculture group.
I was just over at the HC group and noticed a post where they were trying to project Bernie as a Homophobe by no being on some imaginary 'Pink Square'
..But everyone gets to read it. Talk about Propaganda and some imaginary reality.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Tarc
(10,478 posts)Last edited Mon May 23, 2016, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)
But the Sanders crew runs straight for the conspiracy theory.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)one would expect one of them at some point to fall in Sanders favor.
But no every damn glitch in every damn state where they occurred go to Hillary.
I know it's all coincidence, she just a lucky thing.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Even when he gets his way, you all make up a conspiracy.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)nt
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)suspicious!
Tarc
(10,478 posts)Things happen all the time, technology is not infallible.
The fact that the Sanders campaign has not challenged a single one of these allegedly tampered-with elections is telling. I think his legal team has a better handle on the matter than a pseudonymous DU'er.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)At the very least, it calls into the question the accuracy of numbers that are slapped together in mere minutes, in the race to call the election.
What's the rush, I ask??? Let's count them slowly, with independent observers. Let's count them right.
And I don't see what the big deal is, asking for a recount. Everyone should be happy to count the numbers to make as many skeptical people happy as possible.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)seem to be the ones who are against open primaries.
LonePirate
(13,448 posts)An open primary should be exactly that - everyone from any party should vote - not just the party hosting the primary and independents. In fact, all candidates for all parties should be in the same primary and everybody votes in the same race. Primaries don't come more open than that but people don't seem to want that type of open primary because the independents are allegedly fawned over in them.
Arneoker
(375 posts)We have them all the time here in Virginia, where excruciatingly close elections are the norm. They rarely change anything. But every candidate, including Sanders, has a right to ask for one, in the context of the relevant laws and rules of course.
BTW, weren't the Sanders people thinking about asking for a recount? I presume they decided against it. If that's so, why is that? Could they be in on "it" too?
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Things in KY though don't move at the fastest pace unless you have a tea party governor who rolls back everything.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)you're still losing.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Just saying.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)had to get your barbs in. So have a nice day.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Pet peeve of mine with that word
At least it isn't as bad when you comment on someone's photograph and mean to say "nice shot" but autocorrect gets you with "nice shit". Yup yup.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)All the votes for Pike County were removed from the total, for a short period, then added back in a few minutes later.
You'll note that Clinton votes were also reduced.
Sid
randome
(34,845 posts)...then you shouldn't be opining on them. It is ridiculously easy to tally results wrongly. Also ridiculously easy for the error to be detected and corrected. Case closed.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Time for change
(13,718 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)A lot of people are involved, a lot of tabulating systems are involved. Sanders lost. Stop trying to push the meme that he was cheated.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
LonePirate
(13,448 posts)The votes were still being counted when these screen shots were taken. This seems like a case of human error during the tabulation, most likely a set of numbers being entered twice or perhaps in the wrong field in a spreadsheet or database. An on the spot audit corrected the issue, thus the change in numbers. Of course, these sorts of normal changes don't feed the victim of fraud narrative some prefer to propagate these days.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Right?
LonePirate
(13,448 posts)One of these checks obviously caught the error and corrected it. This is not a case of fraud or tampering no matter how much some people wish it were.
merrily
(45,251 posts)That may not be the whole story. There are even claims of votes being discarded in Oregon.
And, to correct the record with reality, the Pope never said Sanders supporters need a psychiatrist. He said those claiming the Pope's face time with Bernie was political need a psychiatrist. This was in response to a goading question from media.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)The US Army has their own and the public can even play it.
Welcome to America's Army.
https://www.americasarmy.com
brooklynite
(95,071 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)If you're only going to post meaningless nonsense, please reply to someone else, or to your own posts. Thanks.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)This is NONSENSE. There was a simple tabulation error caught and corrected. Sorry, no conspiracy. No fraud. Please come down to the plant Earth.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)The votes came right back a few minutes later.
This is so pathetic!
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)just reporting error fair n square u r soo stupid tinfoil hat..."
senz
(11,945 posts)California: beware.
Land Shark
(6,346 posts)Of course, it is mere coincidence that the margin ended up, at least for now, as 1,924 votes, as that was also the year of Vladimir Lenin's death, and Woodrow Wilson's death, and Jimmy Carters birth as well.
It's still a pretty wacky coincidence. But i do think all elections are Kentucky-Fried Elections down there nevertheless. I've talked to people openly talking about election theft and the cost of buying various offices. Books have been written about election shenanigans down there.
Here's the link that shows a 1924 difference.https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&ei=cxJCV9P7NoTvebS8vLAO&q=kentucky+democratic+presidential+primary+results+&oq=kentucky+democratic+presidential+primary+results+&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.12...2167.10220.0.10906.18.18.0.7.7.0.392.4302.0j4j12j2.18.0....0...1c.1j4.64.mobile-gws-hp..2.15.2057.3..0j41j0i131j0i3.lFt9zEoQp2c#eob=m.0498y/D/2/short/m.0498y/
Recursion
(56,582 posts)This happens pretty much every election and people seem surprised every time.
brooklynite
(95,071 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Hillary supporters didn't say Sanders cheated.
TheKentuckian
(25,035 posts)See Turdblossom in Ohio last time.
Just because you cheat doesn't mean you win everytime.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)When it was restored, Sanders had his votes in the same numbers they had been before.
There's no scandal here.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)and rigging. I would like to see a full list of the crap that went down in this Primary.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)So what is this about?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...this seems to be the Bernie platform of late. Manufacture a slight, and accidentally on purpose forget to provide the reality, can't be having anyone actually know the truth.
As for the need for a psychologist? I think that comment came from the Pope lol.