2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo apparently Bernie only cares about democracy for people who are loyal to him. The California GOP
Primary which will be held the same day June 7 is a closed primary meaning it is only open to registered Republicans. Registered Independents can't vote in the Republican
Presidential Primary and neither can Non Party Preferences ( NPP) . Why do Bernie supporters hate democracy?
Perhaps some of that time spent waiting in line or harassing Hillary supporters on a daily basis with asinine questions like "Why does Hillary hate democracy?" Might have been better spent on educating Bernie's supporters on how to properly register to vote in your home state.
riversedge
(70,464 posts)Cross posted--all should read
If You Believe That Bernie Should Be the Nominee, You Dont Believe In Democracy
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Sanders lost--He and his camp and followers do NOT like the rules that others need to follow during the Primary-so he sues, screams, demeans a respected CA Senator Boxer by calling her a B**ch, encourages his fans to boo Hillary, etc etc.
TWEET:
If You Believe That Bernie Should Be the Nominee, You Dont Believe In Democracy https://medium.com/soapbox-dc/why-bernie-lost-and-why-his-supporters-need-to-face-reality-a61deb84104e#.yy216yyix
#p2 #uniteblue #BernieLostme
http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-05-20/sanders-won-t-be-fooled-again-by-democracy
May 20, 2016 2:21 PM EDT
By
Francis Wilkinson
...........As Jaime Fuller wrote:
Sanders voters have also been selectively frustrated about the many confusing primary rules. They have not railed against caucuses, which tend to feature extremely low turnout and are so long that many people with inflexible work hours or busy lives are unable to take part. Of course, Sanders has done exceedingly well in caucuses. Using rigged is a political act as much as the politics the phrase seeks to call out.
Of course, when the system is corrupt, you are not obligated to honor its rules. And when your opponent is morally compromised and doctrinally wrong, you have a duty to prevent her from gaining power at the expense of your more perfect, far-reaching vision. Or you do if you value socialism more than you trust democracy.
Sanders has taken pains to stress that he is a Democratic Socialist, distinguishing himself from the unsavory henchmen of Moscow and Beijing. His primary campaign has been unhindered by the kind of red-baiting that would envelop, and overwhelm, him in a general election, when his youthful associations with less democratic strains of socialism would become a staple of Republican advertising.
It's likely that in a general election, the agents of capitalism would indeed join forces to crush Sanders. His campaign, which has sparked a fire but not a revolution, would be exposed as just the latest socialist mirage on the American landscape.
In the Democratic primary, Sanders has been spared all that. He hasn't won. But he hasn't completely lost, either. He's just been required, once again, to wait. It's not capitalism, however, that has deferred his dream of socialism with American characteristics. It's democracy....................
Shandris
(3,447 posts){QUOTE}"value socialism more than you trust democracy".
Yes, an interesting turn of phrase indeed.
So, what reason do we have to 'trust' democracy (as it (supposedly) exists within our electorate, of course)?
Mr. Fuller seems vaguely intelligent. I wonder why, then, he's trying to disingenuously insist that 'democracy' is somehow analogous to a 'system' with 'rules' (neither of which, mind you, are able to establish any legitimacy whatsoever) to push his false canard and prime the readers minds with Moscow and Berlin?
Ahhh, right. Because Mr. Fuller is a disingenuous author, like most of the Medes, who thinks that the average person will ignore these messages. Normally, Mr. Fuller would be right. But today, I am here, and Mr. Fuller is exposed as the Illusionist he is.
E for Effort, though.
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)malign Sanders until the cows come home and those who know him and his history will remain loyal
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That's why I voted or and donated to Hillary because she is far more honest, decent, and a generally good person.
Sanders is way too corrupt for me to vote for him in the primaries. I could only ever hold my nose and vote for him in a GE, and then very reluctantly.