2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumVermont Democrats Oust Superdelegates
On Sunday Vermont Democrats were clear that superdelegates no longer represent the populace.
The Vermont Democratic Convention was low key compared to many around the country. Bernie was clearly the home-town hero and nearly every speaker sang his praises. Gubernatorial candidate Sue Minter said she was thrilled to have the issues of low wages and poverty addressed by Bernie on a national stage.
With nearly a third of the room identifying as first time attendees to a democratic caucus, energy was high and all about Bernie. In a state in which Bernie took 100% of the delegates there was little to debate. Delegates and national representatives were elected and it was resolved Vermont democrats would endorse Bernie Sanders for President of the United states.
But the biggest surprise was the resolution to remove ten superdelegates ability to vote at the national convention in Philadelphia in July. Vermont has 16 pledged delegates who are required to vote in-line with the populace. Because Bernie won Vermont by a landslide he earned all pledged delegates. The issue was the state also had ten superdelegates. They include members of the state party, senators, congressmen, the governor and former governor. A few superdelegates had publicly stated they intended to cast their vote for contender Hillary Clinton despite public outcry. Two such superdelegates are lame duck Governor Peter Shumlin and former governor Howard Dean. Senator Patrick Leahy had initially endorsed Clinton but when outcry turned to threats of refusal to vote for Leahy he promised to back his constituents.
A superdelegate vote in Vermont held the weight of 10,000 votes. Several speeches by party nominees mentioned the unfairness of this. Prior to this convention Maine had eliminated superdelegates at their state convention. Maine was another state Sander won by a landslide.
Vermont democrats removed the rights of superdelegates with a unanimous vote and almost zero debate.
The resolution does not affect the July National convention. It is set to begin in the 2020 race. Vermont Public Radio says Sanders won all 16 of this states pledged delegates since he took more than 85 percent of the vote in the primary. With only four of Vermonts 10 superdelegates choosing Clinton, the resulting 22-4 allocation mirrors precisely the proportion of the vote in March.
http://bernthepress.com/2016/05/22/vermont-democrats-oust-superdelegates/
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NewImproved Deal
(534 posts)Time for America to dump the crooked Superdelegate racket...
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rozdeep
(29 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Response to Playinghardball (Original post)
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cali
(114,904 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)They GOT to go.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
cali
(114,904 posts)In any case the convention puts to rest hill fans ludicrous notion that the VDP will turn on him. The Party officially and unanimously endorsed him for President.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They are there to provide a counter weight to those open primaries and caucuses, where every center-left group (and spoilers from the independent right) jump in to make their opinions and feelings known.
The SD's have the PARTY goals--short and long-term-- foremost in their mind.
Ask Tad Devine--he helped design the system.
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cali
(114,904 posts)would turn on Bernie? It unanimously endorsed him for president yesterday.
MADem
(135,425 posts)b) Trying to put words in my mouth?
No need for you to engage in that kind of fantasy-invention. It reflects poorly on you.
I never thought/said any such thing.
Now, run along and make things up about someone else. You're not getting away with that kind of false and disruptive narrative with me.
cali
(114,904 posts)boston bean.
MADem
(135,425 posts)mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)vote for Leahy he promised to back his constituents.
And that's how you do it, folks. Threaten politicians with primary fights and you will be amazed how supportive they can be.
That is why it is VITAL to support that tiny, unimportant primary fight in Florida. If the guy Sanders endorsed wins the primary I am certain Debbie will run on her own ticket, like Joe Lieberman did, but ALL of the Congress-critters will get the message.
Who needs that grief?
Congress should be the target if Sanders doesn't prevail.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)I'm sure Howard Dean really, really cares about what the voters want....oh wait, he's a lobbyist now.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Bravo!
Tarc
(10,478 posts)and if the Vermonters try to force it anyways, their delegates can be stripped.
So, tread lightly with this superdelegate purge zeal.
cali
(114,904 posts)disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)Thatz for you sir...
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