A member of Run DMC discussed homophobia in hip hop last year

http://allhiphop.com/2015/10/21/darryl-dmc-mcdaniels-run-dmc-discusses-homophobia-love-and-hip-hop-miles-milan/

on the phone list.

I don't endorse bigotry, even by LGBT supporters who have popular political shows on major radio networks that regularly and routinely use stigmatizing bigoted language toward mental illness and use persons with mental illness as iconic adjectives of what's wrong with political opponents.

And it's all given cover because its done 'as a joke'. Yes, as if locker room and bar jokes aren't major sources that sustain bigotry and discrimination in our society.

Everyone needs to clean up their act on this. Even groups that enjoy greater recognition as groups that are targets of discrimination.

I agree she shouldn't be acting like that. You used the plural and frankly I can't think of any other who meets your description.

And Skinner and the admin who stated in a DU email to me that they think DU can't function without it.

since I haven't heard him.

I can lift the corner of the rug for you... and this can go where all the other concerns about this are kept.

But, I do think you know Skinner and the operation of the pictures on the front page of this site.

Having suffered from same I am offended that we are used as a butt of jokes and that it increases the fear people have of those who suffer from mental illness. I work, have a family and struggle everyday...and still people use my serious illness as a joke. Should we joke about cancer patients and those with diabetes as well?

Of course not! And yet we continue to be the safe group to malinge.

on top of everything else it is bad politics.

Different folks.
Otherwise no.comment.

x and c are next to each other

I don't think either Dem candidate would sanction hate music being played at a rally, so that was never my concern either.

The fact that this isn't being called hate music is the point to me also.

His real name is Earl Simmons. His stage name is DMX.

Tons of issues with the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMX_%28rapper%29#Legal_issues

Not to mention homophobia and sexism. But he did make some legit tunes.

X Gon' Give It To Ya, Ruff Ryders, What's My Name... Classic late 90s/early 00s hip hop.

I know nothing else about him. But that was enough.

But then again, so does David Allen Coe, but I'll be damned if I stop listening to "You Never Even Called Me By My Name" or "The Ride".

but perhaps I should give it a listen sometime.

Not my thing at all, though, I find.

How old is that song?

Edwin Acuna chose it specifically to show up the media and Hillary's fans as dupes who would thoughtlessly seize on anything, ANYTHING, they could use to attack Bernie.

It worked.

that is a mere 13 years ago. Again, it is perfectly fine for songs to revel in the murder of gays and transgender. BTW here is a link to hate crime stats from that year. Gays were number 2 barely behind religion totaled but mostly Muslim and Jews. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2003/hatecrime03.pdf

As for statistics, I can't stomach looking at them.

No tracking of sexual assault. No tracking of hate crimes against women (femicide is the term the UN uses).

I know things are bad. They're getting better.

The issue here is not hateful lyrics. Those have been around forever and as I said - it's getting better.

The issue here is having a media that people assume they can trust who are willing to do anything , even promote hateful lies and catapult the propaganda with force - to shut down our best chance for real change in a generation.

These dupes are carrying water for the 1%, for the elites who decide we should go to war for fun and profit.

Nor is it even what he says he did.

Which is to keep repeating the words "Sanders" and "supporter" as though these remotely have a connection to the artist, the song, or the horrific lyrics and hatred expressed therein. This is today's scandal of the organized Clintonista talking-points dispensary, and carries its own shame.

I guess I could have lied instead.

Popular music has always been plagued with sexism, racism, all the various isms. Rap music takes this to a new level, with lyrics recommending murder, rape, drug use, violence of all kinds, etc. Country music is guilty, too. We only take notice when an artist is associated with a political candidate, so I guess we do think it's "perfectly OK."

fell on his sword...after a clueless campaign really played the song? Someday maybe we will find out...social science experiment? Sounds fake.

Progressive they're not.