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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:28 PM May 2016

Sanders says campaign isn't over if he doesn't win California

May 29, 2016, 09:00 am
Sanders says campaign isn't over if he doesn't win California
By Rebecca Savransky

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said his campaign won't necessarily be over if he doesn't win the California primary on June 7.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281626-sanders-says-campaign-isnt-over-if-he-doesnt-win

Moving the goalposts again!

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Sanders says campaign isn't over if he doesn't win California (Original Post) workinclasszero May 2016 OP
He's an entitled, egotistical nightmare annavictorious May 2016 #1
The campaign will be over Shadowflash May 2016 #2
Pledged delegates Plus super delegates = simple majority of delegates. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #5
Super delegates Shadowflash May 2016 #9
LOL. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #10
What wishful thinking? Shadowflash May 2016 #11
It's a distinction without a difference mythology May 2016 #14
Huh? Shadowflash May 2016 #17
Nobody votes to the convention Trenzalore May 2016 #28
Pledged delegate only vote at the convention Buzz cook May 2016 #19
Pledged Delegates MohRokTah May 2016 #30
That's unfair. Philly can be expensive. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #3
Well, the primary campaign isn't over before the convention delegates decide who to nominate. imagine2015 May 2016 #4
Like a lead balloon, Bernie continues to sink. CrowCityDem May 2016 #6
He never said it would be over if he lost CA. You made those goalposts up. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #7
Right? vintx May 2016 #24
He can think anything he wants to.. Peacetrain May 2016 #8
There is nothing left to do after that KingFlorez May 2016 #12
Five years from now Sanders will be wandering through the woods with a sign procon May 2016 #13
But once Hillary is the presumptive nominee, then all the big wigs in the party can endorse her anotherproletariat May 2016 #15
Obama endorsement ProgressiveEconomist May 2016 #22
You got to be kidding Gothmog May 2016 #16
I'm shocked. Jamaal510 May 2016 #18
Good. The last primary is DC. Eric J in MN May 2016 #20
Do you really think they care? Demsrule86 May 2016 #25
Sanders did a rally in Texas. Eric J in MN May 2016 #32
Umm...he's been saying that for a while now... bobbobbins01 May 2016 #21
I think he will quit Demsrule86 May 2016 #26
Expect the deserved blowback then nt geek tragedy May 2016 #39
You really think this is only an election campaign? You know nothing about Bernie then... AZ Progressive May 2016 #23
Yeah, this whole thread... People aren't getting it, apparently. JudyM May 2016 #36
The more I see of Bernie the less Demsrule86 May 2016 #37
It will take a stake and MFM008 May 2016 #27
Sanders is full of crap it's over now. stonecutter357 May 2016 #29
If he loses CA, then what's his case for the nomination, a poll? Yavin4 May 2016 #31
He could still ask DC voters to give him delegates for a progressive party platform Eric J in MN May 2016 #33
Bernie always intended to stay through the convention Rattlesnake Chaser May 2016 #34
Ego is everything to sanders beachbumbob May 2016 #35
It's over whether he admits it or not. nt geek tragedy May 2016 #38
He loves tweakin' yer nose and boy, does it work! cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #40

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
2. The campaign will be over
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

When one of the candidates gets the required amount of pledged delegates to secure the nomination. If that doesn't happen, it goes to the convention.

I don't understand what is SO difficult about understanding that.

The rules don't say 'until California' or 'until June 7'.

For someone who's candidate has it in the bag, you people sure complain a lot.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. Pledged delegates Plus super delegates = simple majority of delegates.
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

It is not that difficult.

Clinton needs 73.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
9. Super delegates
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

ONLY vote at the convention, if the race is undecided when it gets there.

They DO NOT count toward the regular pledged delegate count while the race is ongoing. Good try, though.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
10. LOL.
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

Wishful thinking will not win the nomination for Sanders.
Democrats will not nominate a candidate who could not win the votes of a majority of Democrats.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
11. What wishful thinking?
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016

What I said are facts. Sorry you don't like them but, hey, I'm just the messenger.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. It's a distinction without a difference
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:10 PM
May 2016

There is no reason to think that Sanders would be able to convince the super delegates to switch once he officially loses the pledged delegate count. In 2008 Clinton conceded the race shortly after the last votes because the outcome was obvious and correct that the winner of the pledged delegates would be the nominee.

It will be the same in 2016. In a best case scenario for Sanders, he takes it to the convention and loses handily on the first ballot.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
17. Huh?
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

''There is no reason to think that Sanders would be able to convince the super delegates to switch once he officially loses the pledged delegate count.''

Where did I say that? All I brought up was the fact that the primary election rules don't say the race is over with California or on June 7 and the fact that superdelegates don't cast votes until the convention.

You made up the rest.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
28. Nobody votes to the convention
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

However you can make a presumption about who the nominee is by the pledged and super delegate count.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
3. That's unfair. Philly can be expensive.
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

I mean you don't think that 5 star hotel suites and Lobster Thermador Jane loves so much pay for themselves?

Gotta keep the gullible folks believing so they send the contributions.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
4. Well, the primary campaign isn't over before the convention delegates decide who to nominate.
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

That's just a political fact of life.

Unless Hillary withdraws from the race due to personal scandals or other factors which is entirely possible.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
12. There is nothing left to do after that
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

Without any contests left, there is no campaign. DC votes after California, but there aren't enough delegates there to make a difference.

procon

(15,805 posts)
13. Five years from now Sanders will be wandering through the woods with a sign
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

that says, "It's Still Not Over!".

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
15. But once Hillary is the presumptive nominee, then all the big wigs in the party can endorse her
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

and having Obama, Biden, Warren, etc. all asking Sanders to get out of the race for reasons of unity will make him look even worse than he does now.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
22. Obama endorsement
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

on June 7th would really brand Bernie as a bizarre sore-loser head case--EXCELLENT point.

I wonder whether Bernie Weaver et al can think that far ahead. After June 7th it's not going to be just Bernie vs. Hillary. It's going to be Bernie vs. 99 percent of national and downticket Democrats.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
20. Good. The last primary is DC.
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:51 PM
May 2016

The citizens of DC should get to hear speeches in person from both candidates.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
32. Sanders did a rally in Texas.
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

I don't think he was expecting to win Texas.

I hope he does a rally in DC.

Yavin4

(35,455 posts)
31. If he loses CA, then what's his case for the nomination, a poll?
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:17 PM
May 2016

So, if there's an opinion poll showing that Kim Kardashian beats Trump, the Dems. should nominate her?

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
33. He could still ask DC voters to give him delegates for a progressive party platform
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

...if the nomination becomes impossible before DC votes.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
35. Ego is everything to sanders
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

California is meaningless as Hillary achieves the required delegate amount with New Jersey...but sanders is going all in...he is classless...and willing to destroy America with trump..

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