2016 Postmortem

pnwmom

(109,025 posts) Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:16 PM Jul 2016

Epstein employee swears she personally witnessed Trump forcibly rape a 13 year old

and personally witnessed Trump threaten the lives of the girl and her family.

The employee said that witnessing these encounters was a part of her job as a "party planner."

"Tiffany Doe," under penalty of perjury, has signed an affidavit to that effect, according to an article in Huff Post by an NBC legal analyst, Lisa Bloom.

This is the alleged legal affidavit (the 2 page document that follows the lawsuit)

https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits#fullscreen?platform=hootsuite

This is Lisa Bloom's Huff Post piece.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

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Epstein employee swears she personally witnessed Trump forcibly rape a 13 year old (Original Post) pnwmom Jul 2016 OP

Corporate media ain't saying a damn thing about it. Iliyah Jul 2016 #1

Huff Post isn't part of corporate media? And the legal analyst works for NBC. pnwmom Jul 2016 #3

If they find evidence that it is true, they will be all over it Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #12

It's also not the type of thing persons like that do just once Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #14

so if she saw it and didnt report it is she some kind of accessory? msongs Jul 2016 #2

The statute of limitations for that may have passed. It did for the civil pnwmom Jul 2016 #4

Does a statute of limitations apply to minor victim? targetpractice Jul 2016 #5

I don't know. And the question would be what statute was in effect pnwmom Jul 2016 #6

as far as i can tell there is no statute of limitations in new york for rape. drray23 Jul 2016 #7

According to one article, she said she'd withdraw her civil claim if a prosecutor pnwmom Jul 2016 #8

Anyone get the feeling that this may be a set up by the Trump camp? Jitter65 Jul 2016 #9

Uh, no. grossproffit Jul 2016 #10

The people identified by name with this are Republican conservatives, pnwmom Jul 2016 #11

I said a long time ago that even if Trump raped a kid his followers wouldn't care. Kablooie Jul 2016 #13

RUMP does have an obsession w/ the word & i bet thinks about it. pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #15

What is with this? UCmeNdc Jul 2016 #16

Maybe a prominent Democrat ought to bring this up oberliner Jul 2016 #17

No reason to yet. I'd be waiting-and-seeing if I were them. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #18

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

1. Corporate media ain't saying a damn thing about it.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:23 PM

Jul 2016

pnwmom

(109,025 posts)

3. Huff Post isn't part of corporate media? And the legal analyst works for NBC.

Reply to Iliyah (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:29 PM

Jul 2016

But it does seem that more sources should be reporting this.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)

12. If they find evidence that it is true, they will be all over it

Reply to Iliyah (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 01:20 AM

Jul 2016

The media has soured on Trump in the last 6 weeks, they would have no reason to protect him or hide the story. Besides, the ratings would be at historic highs if it turned out the Republican candidate for president had raped a child. That would be a scandal that would rock the world for years. No one is going to bury such a thing to help this piece of shit.

However, with that said, I still need to see more evidence that there is a credible story here. Trump is a gigantic asshole but a child rapist? That is a completely different type of evil that demands solid evidence.

Maru Kitteh

(28,348 posts)

14. It's also not the type of thing persons like that do just once

Reply to Doctor Jack (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 01:49 AM

Jul 2016

I guess when you consider Denny Hastert, Jerry Sandusky, etc., some of them do manage to get by with it for some time - still I would be at least somewhat surprised to find this true in this case. For one thing, we haven't seen a pattern of behavior of him seeking the company of children. If he had some big children's charity where kids came to his house all the time I could see it.

We'll see.

msongs

(67,504 posts)

2. so if she saw it and didnt report it is she some kind of accessory?

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:29 PM

Jul 2016

pnwmom

(109,025 posts)

4. The statute of limitations for that may have passed. It did for the civil

Reply to msongs (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:31 PM

Jul 2016

case, but the lawsuit argues there should be an exception since the victim says she's been living in fear ever since it happened. That she didn't report earlier because of the threats.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)

5. Does a statute of limitations apply to minor victim?

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:50 PM

Jul 2016

I haven't Google'd and am just asking because.

pnwmom

(109,025 posts)

6. I don't know. And the question would be what statute was in effect

Reply to targetpractice (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:53 PM

Jul 2016

at the time of the alleged crime. Many of them have been extended in recent years for child victims.

drray23

(7,638 posts)

7. as far as i can tell there is no statute of limitations in new york for rape.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 11:02 PM

Jul 2016

Only for what they call "Other felony sex offenses"

New York17
N.Y. Crim. Pro. Law § 30.10

Rape; Criminal sexual act;
Aggravated sexual abuse;
Course of sexual conduct
against a child
None
Other felony sex offenses 5 years

This is where I found this information:

https://victimsofcrime.org/docs/DNA%20Resource%20Center/sol-for-sexual-assault-check-chart---final---copy.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Somebody who has training in law can review that and tell us why is it that the initial case was dismissed before 5 years were passed. I guess it must not have been filled as a forcible rape.

the huffington post article discussing that is at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html