2016 Postmortem
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...saw this posted today:
'Bernie Sanders isn't leading his voters to support Hillary, he's following them.'
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)bigtree
(86,024 posts)...
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I can also see the good in her and have no problem talking about it.
I'm not a hater.
bigtree
(86,024 posts)...but the entire Sanders holdout is designed to place wedges between Democrats.
It's sophistry to chide me for refusing relent on criticism of his holding out, for highlighting the fact that he's still engaging in that obstinate behavior.
The point behind the quote is that the majority of his voters have already moved on to support his rival. He's less leading them than he is following them.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'm sure he always knew who most of his supporters were and realized this would be his end game early on, even if he became understandably refocused on winning later on.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)politicians are politicians.
bigtree
(86,024 posts)...which is that Sanders has overshot the window for 'leading' his voters to support Hillary. Polling shows that the overwhelming majority have already made that transition. Sanders has not, as of yet. When he eventually does so, he'll be far behind his own supporters in the primary.
Conversely, Hillary 'led' her voters to support Barack Obama a mere four days after voting was done.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)On the other hand, he's a much different candidate than either Clinton or Obama were--he was running to draw attention to issues not because he wanted to be president (which can seem either noble or WTF? depending on one's perspective). He undoubtedly had more leverage a few weeks ago but he's not into the leverage thing.
I don't get Sanders, probably never will, but glad he's doing the endorsement now and is showing his most skeptical supporters that the Democratic Party is the only gave in town for achieving real change. If he can swing even 5% of his supporters that would be big.