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Quotable (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2016 OP
Still can't let it go huh? NWCorona Jul 2016 #1
you should know how ridiculous that sounds bigtree Jul 2016 #4
I don't see it that way. Regardless of what criticisms I have of Clinton NWCorona Jul 2016 #5
there's nothing about supporting Hillary which is divisive in this campaign bigtree Jul 2016 #6
Ok. Sure NWCorona Jul 2016 #7
Unkindly stated, but definitely real truth. Hortensis Jul 2016 #2
Dermatillomania aidbo Jul 2016 #3
Eh, politicians usually follow the voters, Sanders, Clinton, Obama geek tragedy Jul 2016 #8
actually missed the point bigtree Jul 2016 #9
That's true. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #10

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
5. I don't see it that way. Regardless of what criticisms I have of Clinton
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jul 2016

I can also see the good in her and have no problem talking about it.

I'm not a hater.

bigtree

(86,024 posts)
6. there's nothing about supporting Hillary which is divisive in this campaign
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jul 2016

...but the entire Sanders holdout is designed to place wedges between Democrats.

It's sophistry to chide me for refusing relent on criticism of his holding out, for highlighting the fact that he's still engaging in that obstinate behavior.

The point behind the quote is that the majority of his voters have already moved on to support his rival. He's less leading them than he is following them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Unkindly stated, but definitely real truth.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jul 2016

I'm sure he always knew who most of his supporters were and realized this would be his end game early on, even if he became understandably refocused on winning later on.

bigtree

(86,024 posts)
9. actually missed the point
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jul 2016

...which is that Sanders has overshot the window for 'leading' his voters to support Hillary. Polling shows that the overwhelming majority have already made that transition. Sanders has not, as of yet. When he eventually does so, he'll be far behind his own supporters in the primary.

Conversely, Hillary 'led' her voters to support Barack Obama a mere four days after voting was done.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. That's true.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jul 2016

On the other hand, he's a much different candidate than either Clinton or Obama were--he was running to draw attention to issues not because he wanted to be president (which can seem either noble or WTF? depending on one's perspective). He undoubtedly had more leverage a few weeks ago but he's not into the leverage thing.

I don't get Sanders, probably never will, but glad he's doing the endorsement now and is showing his most skeptical supporters that the Democratic Party is the only gave in town for achieving real change. If he can swing even 5% of his supporters that would be big.

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