2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDonald Trump is performing far worse in many Republican strongholds than Mitt Romney did in 2012
Donald Trump is performing far worse in many Republican strongholds than Mitt Romney did in 2012by Allan Smith at Business Insider
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-mitt-romney-republican-states-2012-2016-7
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In states more Republican-leaning than North Carolina was in 2012 (Georgia being the bluest state), and that had at least one poll available since November, Trump performed nearly 10 points worse than Romney in a weighted average of 17 GOP-dominated states.
Some of the most stunning numbers came from Utah, where Trump performed nearly 45 percentage points worse against presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton than Romney did when he faced President Barack Obama in 2012.
In Kansas, FiveThirtyEight had Clinton ahead of Trump by roughly 2.5 percentage points. Romney won that state over Obama by 21.6 percentage points in 2012.
Other states that included large swings: Oklahoma, Idaho, Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas, Alaska, Mississippi, South Carolina, Missouri, and Arizona. The only states among the 17 where Trump was trailing Romney by less than five points were Georgia, Indiana, and Louisiana. West Virginia and Montana were the two where Trump was currently outperforming Romney's 2012 results.
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CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Cha
(298,139 posts)he couldn't vote for trump.. ergo the "loser" label from trump. lol
Johnny2X2X
(19,328 posts)These numbers are a signal that the table is set for a revolution. If Hillary can compete in these reddest of red states, the implications down ticket are a tidal wave.
This is your chance Left in America!!! It's all there, the SCOTUS, the WH, the Senate, and yes, the House. As well as making gains in state governments nationwide. You know the Platform we are building can revolutionize America. This is the time to work harder than you've ever worked, to donate to campaigns at every level, and to be the vehicle to take this nation forward in one big leap.
Unite as a party, do the hard work, and we can make America into what it should be.
applegrove
(118,965 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Salviati
(6,009 posts)He needs to be humiliated, the republican party needs to be shamed for nominating such a vile piece of human garbage. His supporters need to be rejected so overwhelmingly at the polls that they will shut their festering gobs for a generation before their disgusting bile bubbles to the surface again.
applegrove
(118,965 posts)MFM008
(19,839 posts)they need it.
Whig party destruction.
Salviati
(6,009 posts)It doesn't matter if you're in the bluest of blue states or the reddest of red states. We need to run up the score against him in the states we win, and cut his lead in the states where they inexplicably think that this talking overripe yam is fit to run anything more important than a a tic tac toe game.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Hekate
(91,055 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)This is really starting to look like a Democratic landslide Election 2016. (This would easily flip the Republican majority of the U.S. Senate Democratic. The U.S. House would move to tossup.) And that is because the percentage-points margin, for Hillary Clinton, and based on these numbers, would move from Obamas 2012 margin of D+4 to closer to D+14.
Examples:
Utah has been the Republicans best state in nine of the last ten presidential elections. (Which means, for Democrats
it is usually their No. 50.) It was John McCains No. 3, in 2008, but from Gerald Ford, in 1976, through Mitt Romney, in 2012, their No. 1 state for percentage-points margins was Utah.
If Kansas is polling as a Democratic pickup, and it were to actually become one, we are looking at Barack Obamas Election 2012 map of 26 states (plus District of Columbia), and seeing a pickup of approximately 15 [R-to-D] states. (A 2012 Mitt Romney carried 24 states. Kansas is typically one of the Republicans ten best states.)
Montana would be among the pickups (if Kansas were to actually flip). In 2004, George W. Bush was re-elected with a popular-vote margin of R+2.46. He carried Montana by R+20.50. John McCain, in 2008, held the state only by R+2.38. (Barack Obama carried the states female vote.) Montana would not, from the report, give Donald Trump additional support
let alone would it move from Romney +13/+14 to Trump +20/+21. No way.
No 2012 Obama/Democratic state would flip Republican for 2016 Trump. Nevadawhich has been carried in all presidential elections, except for 1976, since 1912has actually moved to a Democratic tilt, along with its built-in bellwether status, since 2008. (Obama won nationally, in 2008, by D+7.26 and carried Nevada by D+12.50. With re-election, in 2012, he won nationally by D+3.86 and carried Nevada by D+6.68.)
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)lancer78
(1,495 posts)The GOP will DUMP TRUMP. They don't care about their base. All they have to do is point to these poll numbers and ask if the base wants to support such a loser.