2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDonald Trump is the greatest threat to the republic in American history.
For all their flaws Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George Walker Bush at least paid lip service to democratic norms and the rule of law.
If a person doesn't think he presents a clear and present danger to democratic norms and the rule of law he or she should.
Reminds me of Benjamin Franklin's ad monition that the Founders were giving us a republic if we could keep it.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)She was very correct in her assessment, but that won't be enough to stop Trump's supporters from voting for him.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Our goal for the next three and one half months is to do everything we can to ensure his floor of support is his ceiling.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I am very much sick of hearing how great Reagan was. He and his allies sat silently watching as tens of thousands of Americans died. Some of his staff laughed and joked about it. This crap coming from the center in our Party that tries to push Reagan as less than a full tilt villain is just not acceptable.
Those of you who left the rest of us to fend off Dutch and his monsters have no standing with me, none at all.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Peigan68
(137 posts)Problem is that the MSM is still treating Trump like "just another presidential candidate" instead of the real threat to our Republic that he actually is.
I mean he's an openly racist bigot with fascist tendencies, and yet, he still has a ton of support out there among certain voters. They either know and don't care that he's a racist, or worse, they actually agree with him.
These are scary times.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)I don't get why some don't get it.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)He would be no different than any other republican IMO. He wants to raise money from Wall Street but it won't give him any. He tried to sell out before the primaries began.
Him being the greatest threat is hyperbole, fear mongering. Let's vote for the Secretary because she's just flat out better.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)The chant erupts in a college auditorium in Washington, as admirers of a conservative internet personality shout down a black protester. It echoes around the gym of a central Iowa high school, as white students taunt the Hispanic fans and players of a rival team. It is hollered by a lone motorcyclist, as he tears out of a Kansas gas station after an argument with a Hispanic man and his Muslim friend.
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In countless collisions of color and creed, Donald J. Trumps name evokes an easily understood message of racial hostility. Defying modern conventions of political civility and language, Mr. Trump has breached the boundaries that have long constrained Americans public discussion of race.
Mr. Trump has attacked Mexicans as criminals. He has called for a ban on Muslim immigrants. He has wondered aloud why the United States is not letting people in from Europe.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/us/politics/donald-trump-white-identity.html?_r=0
Hes not Hitler, as his wife recently said? Well, of course he isnt. But then Hitler wasnt Hitleruntil he was. At each step of the way, the shock was tempered by acceptance. It depended on conservatives pretending he wasnt so bad, compared with the Communists, while at the same time the militant left decided that their real enemies were the moderate leftists, who were really indistinguishable from the Nazis. The radical progressives decided that there was no difference between the democratic left and the totalitarian right and that an explosion of institutions was exactly the most thrilling thing imaginable.
The American Republic stands threatened by the first overtly anti-democratic leader of a large party in its modern historyan authoritarian with no grasp of history, no impulse control, and no apparent barriers on his will to power. The right thing to do, for everyone who believes in liberal democracy, is to gather around and work to defeat him on Election Day. Instead, we seem to be either engaged in parochial feuding or caught by habits of tribal hatred so ingrained that they have become impossible to escape even at moments of maximum danger. Bernie Sanders wouldnt mind bringing down the Democratic Party to prevent it from surrendering to corporate forcesand yet he may be increasing the possibility of rule-by-billionaire.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)for money. Once he's bought he will do what he's told; which is still bad.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Instead of trying to bind the nation's wounds he picking the scabs off...
We have never seen the likes of him.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)his history belies your premise that once he takes/gets donor money he will do as he's told. trump's whole history is to take the money and run.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)which one of us will be proven to be right.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)we will never know, as the convention is the closet trump will see of the West Wing.