2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumViolence, Blood and Betrayal inside the Trump Potemkin Village
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/violence-blood-and-betrayal-inside-the-trump-potemkin-villageBut whatever you think about undocumented immigrants there's no evidence they are more violent or more prone to murder than others in American society. One could just as easily get three people who's children had been killed by African-Americans or Jews, people whose pain and anguish would be no less harrowing. This isn't illustration; it's incitement. When Trump first did this in California a couple months ago people were aghast. Now it's normal.
Even more disturbing, numerous speakers from the dais, including some of the top speakers of the evening, called for Hillary Clinton to be imprisoned. At least two - and I think more - actually led the crowd in chants of "lock her up!" There has never been any evidence of criminal activity on Clinton's part. An investigation with a lot of pressure to find something amiss concluded that no charges should be recommended against her and that no prosecutor would bring charges against Clinton for anything connected to her private email server.
It goes without saying that it is a highly dangerous development when one presidential nominee and his supporters make into a rallying cry that their opposing candidate should be imprisoned. This is not Russia. This is not some rickety Latin American Republic from half a century ago. This is America. For all our failings and foibles this is not a path we've ever gone down.
This is not a disagreement about a matter of law: it is a demand for vengeance and punishment, one rooted in the pathologies of the current Trumpite right and inevitably to some extent about the fact that Clinton is a woman. If you have a chance rewatch the speeches by Rudy Giuliani or even more ret. Gen Michael Flynn. These are not normal convention speeches. It is only a small skip and a jump to the state legislator in West Virginia who demanded Clinton by executed by hanging on the National Mall. In such a climate, don't fool yourself: worse can happen.
The Trump campaign has always been about revenge and reclamation. Trump is a catalyst not a cause. It is all borne from the social and cultural transformation that is currently changing the country. Hillary Clinton has plenty of flaws. But they have no necessary or clear connection to the venom and increasingly violent anger directed against her. She's simply the symbol and target. "Lock her up!" "Lock her up!". This is an American political convention. She's the opposing party nominee. This is not normal. Not normal at all.
villager
(26,001 posts)The pundit class (even if not Josh specifically) also have their hands in its authorship.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,312 posts)You bring up a point I have been making. This is the first time I know of in US history of the entire theme of a convention being that they will throw the leader of the other party in prison if they defeat them in the election. That is right out of 3rd world democracies we see around the world.
And the press should be absolutely outraged that the Reps are openly advocating that prison will be the consequence for Hillary if she loses. That is a huge scandal.
dsc
(52,175 posts)they likely would, but their hatred for her is literally unsatiable.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The New York Times Editorial Board believes it would be a mistake not to take serious note of the agenda of what has become of the Republican Party, that it demands attention.
... It is as though, rather than trying to reconcile Mr. Trumps heretical views with conservative orthodoxy, the writers of the platform simply opted to go with the most extreme version of every position. Tailored to Mr. Trumps impulsive bluster, this document lays bare just how much the G.O.P. is driven by a regressive, extremist inner core.
Mr. Trumps anti-Muslim phobia and fantasy wall across the Mexican border are front and center, along with his protectionist views, which deny long-held positions of the party. No less alarming is a raft of planks that ideologues pushed through to banish any notion of moderation and present-day reality from the partys credo.
This majority has triumphed in securing retrograde positions that include making no exceptions for rape or womens health in cases of abortion; requiring the Bible to be taught in public high schools; selling coal as a clean energy source; demanding a return of federal lands to the states; insisting that legislators use religion as a guide in lawmaking; appointing family values judges; barring female soldiers from combat; and rejecting the need for stronger gun controls despite the mass shootings afflicting the nation every week.
The platform also makes homophobia and the denial of basic civil rights to gays, lesbians and transgender people a centerpiece. It repudiates same-sex marriage, despite strong support for this constitutional right in the nation at large. The party invokes natural marriage and states rights for determining which bathrooms transgender people may use, and it defends merchants who would deny service to gay customers. ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/opinion/the-most-extreme-republican-platform-in-memory.html?ref=opinion