2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen does Trump get National Security briefings??
This thought is terrifying to me.
kimbutgar
(21,290 posts)Or using it for partisan purposes where he gives away an active investigation exposing the CIA and FBI. He has no filter so I see him passing it on to his head campaign manager who has Russian ties. Then we can call that treason.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I agree your scenario is a likely possibility.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)name before the convention, it occurs to me that WE CANNOT allow this man anywhere near the nuclear codes. The actual author of Trump's first book, who was with him all day long for over a year, is terrified of what he suspects would inevitably happen.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)He is a revengeful bastard who has admitted he never forgets being slighted and delights in paybacks.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)There's something small about a person admitting: " he never forgets being slighted and delights in paybacks."
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)She rose quickly in financial circles. Then when he needed a loan he asked her to pull some strings with the bank. She told him she couldn't do that. He wrote scathing references for her for prospective employers, delighted when her marriage failed, she lost her home and said he never misses a chance to trash her to this day. She wasn't "loyal", he said.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)It's great sometimes to have real life examples of people who act with true class & character. Easy to contrast when you know what the opposite acts, looks, sounds like.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,382 posts)nolabear
(42,009 posts)*sigh* I wish it was that easy.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)I haven't seen anything to indicate that was the case.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)they are watered down considerably. Sec'y Clinton gets them also; Paulie Ryan tried to stop them being given to her, the watered down version as well as the more detailed once she has the nomination. Whoever wins the General Election, gets the full briefings.
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DonViejo
(60,536 posts)if you read my response to your initial question, you read where I stated the briefings are watered down. Once Sec'y Clinton and Trump receive the nomination, the briefings get turned up a notch; then, when victorious on GE day, the briefings go full boar
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angrychair
(8,759 posts)But a president and their national security team, which includes the SoS, has a unique clearance level designated "Yankee White". Like all classified information it's still "need to know" but technically gives that person unlimited access to all relevant information, regardless of agency ownership or sensitivity.
It also expires when they leave office.
Not sure if HRC still carries a clearance of another level but once elected president, it will return to Yankee White.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Somewhere I thought I read it was after the official nomination.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,382 posts)I doubt he is getting anything but a very cursory amount of Intel.
The intelligence community takes their jobs VERY seriously and he is still just a candidate.
He needs to take the security oath before they'll copy him on everything the President gets and to my knowledge, that oath taking does not happen until he is the President Elect
angrychair
(8,759 posts)Once a person becomes their Party nominee, they will get the same national security briefing every morning that the president does.
It was made mandatory years ago to help who ever is elected to be up to speed when they take office.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,382 posts)I had typed out an argument to the contrary, but thought I should do a bit of digging so I didn't talk out of my ass.
You are correct to a degree, but the article linked below indicates the briefings slowly ramp up as far as depth of information is concerned. Just because he is the presumptive nominee does not mean he is copied on everything the president gets right away. It scales up and AFTER the election is when it goes full bore, so to speak
http://www.faqs.org/espionage/Pa-Po/Politics-the-Briefings-of-United-States-Presidential-Candidates.html
But fair enough. My position as stated in my posts above were incorrect
angrychair
(8,759 posts)I didn't realize it ramped up either. Thanks for the link!
flamingdem
(39,342 posts)Shia from Sunnu etc
stopbush
(24,401 posts)the briefings given during the War of 1812.
PatSeg
(47,778 posts)He has no attention span and can't sit still for more than a few minutes. He will be very unhappy when he finds out he can't have his smart phone with him.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Where he says he gets them "From the shows" aka pundits on CNN and FOX
angrychair
(8,759 posts)Once a person becomes their Party nominee, they will get the same national security briefing every morning that the president does.
It was made mandatory years ago to help who ever is elected to be up to speed when they take office.
former9thward
(32,181 posts)He was upset FDR had kept him in the dark about almost everything even though FDR knew he was dying. Truman didn't want that to happen to anyone else.
Ilsa
(61,721 posts)JoFerret
(10,704 posts)Who is taking this up as a matter of great concern?
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Although I heard a Congressman on CNN today say there's a group that are trying to stop Dump from getting ANY security briefings, citing his recent advocating hacking of Clinton, Manafort and his respect for Pooty-Poo