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Breaking: Hillary will announce VP pick this afternoon. (MSNBC) (Original Post) femmocrat Jul 2016 OP
The point was to step on Trumps week with a VP announcement awake Jul 2016 #1
Maybe she will postpone due to the breaking events in Munich. femmocrat Jul 2016 #2
Problem is, there always seems to be this kind of breaking news. How long can she wait? MoonRiver Jul 2016 #5
True, but it has bumped her 1:15 event off the news. femmocrat Jul 2016 #16
It's horrible, but I think she has to go ahead. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #18
Fwiw, the Florida rally starts at 4:30. Hortensis Jul 2016 #22
Thanks for the heads. That would be 3:30 for me, assuming you are referring to ET. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #24
Warren has been talked about for a long time as well. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #3
All week Kaine has been talked about as the pick by the press awake Jul 2016 #4
"he has been talked about for a long time" NCTraveler Jul 2016 #6
Ok I could have said it better awake Jul 2016 #8
And press predictions are never wrong, right? emulatorloo Jul 2016 #7
I don't think she was ever serious about Warren democrattotheend Jul 2016 #9
Not sure if she was or not. I don't think it had a thing to do with Sanders supporters. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #13
EW is needed in the senate. annavictorious Jul 2016 #26
I'm happy with Kaine. fun n serious Jul 2016 #10
I remember that Obama thought very highly of him. femmocrat Jul 2016 #12
What the heck does Kaine bring to a ticket? Glitterati Jul 2016 #11
Someone on CNN said it shows that she is confident that they are way ahead. femmocrat Jul 2016 #14
That's just BS Glitterati Jul 2016 #15
I want O'Malley...n/t asuhornets Jul 2016 #19
Me, too, but we won't get him. DavidDvorkin Jul 2016 #20
Me too! He would be a great pick! -nt CrispyQ Jul 2016 #31
He's a negative for her period. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #30
That's just that persons speculation. KMOD Jul 2016 #21
I don't know why she didn't give more consideration to Rep. Xavier Becerra. (eom) StevieM Jul 2016 #23
So very conservative: NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #25
Here's an interesting read on Kaine. annavictorious Jul 2016 #27
I've read all I need to - bank deregulation Glitterati Jul 2016 #28
Terrorist attack in Germany will probably delay the announcement Democat Jul 2016 #17
Kaine is an awesome choice floppyboo Jul 2016 #29

awake

(3,226 posts)
1. The point was to step on Trumps week with a VP announcement
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jul 2016

But if it is Kaine then texting it will do nothing, he has been talked about for a long time. No surprise no big deal now, if it is not Kaine then there will be Big Buzz

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
5. Problem is, there always seems to be this kind of breaking news. How long can she wait?
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jul 2016

Seems to happen every other day now. Maybe announcing by text is the best way, under the circumstances.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
16. True, but it has bumped her 1:15 event off the news.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jul 2016

If they even intended to show it... but MSNBC sort of indicated that they did.

CNN is now reporting "multiple dead and wounded." This will dominate today's news cycle. Not to sound callous. Prayers for those affected.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
18. It's horrible, but I think she has to go ahead.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jul 2016

Should probably start with condolences for the victims. So sad to hear this news, again.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. Warren has been talked about for a long time as well.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jul 2016

That metric holds little weight in the argument you just made.

You seem to be saying someone outside of Warren, Booker, Kaine, etc. The people that have been "talked about for a long time".

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. "he has been talked about for a long time"
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jul 2016

I get it. This week has been a "long time" for many of us considering the RNC.

emulatorloo

(44,275 posts)
7. And press predictions are never wrong, right?
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jul 2016

Sometimes the pundits get it right, often they get it wrong.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
9. I don't think she was ever serious about Warren
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jul 2016

I think Clinton vetted her to make it look like she was under consideration to appease Bernie supporters.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. Not sure if she was or not. I don't think it had a thing to do with Sanders supporters.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jul 2016

Warrens endorsement was always the golden egg. Sanders supporters have nothing to do with that aspect in my opinion and Warren did not endorse Sanders. Warren was always the first choice for those of us on the left and we love seeing Clinton and Warren fostering their relationship.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
11. What the heck does Kaine bring to a ticket?
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jul 2016

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Especially when compared to what Warren or Booker or Perez or anyone else brings along.

Seriously, a conservative white guy is a zilch, especially when compared to an all woman ticket, or an African American on the ticket, or a Latino on the ticket. Kaine is just blaaaaaaaah, with a capitol B.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
14. Someone on CNN said it shows that she is confident that they are way ahead.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jul 2016

And she doesn't need any help from choosing a more progressive VP. Also Kaine is from southern VA which is more conservative to appeal to southern voters.

Why doesn't anyone ever want to appeal to northern liberals?

Don't kill the messenger, thank you.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
15. That's just BS
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jul 2016

Kaine brings nothing to this ticket.

As a southerner (tho not the least bit conservative) I can guarandamntee you Kaine isn't going to bring in any of the conservative voters in Georgia.

I want Warren, but would be happy with Castro too.

But, another pasty white guy on a ticket with the first female Presidential candidate - way to step on your glass ceiling message, Hillary!

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
21. That's just that persons speculation.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jul 2016

Hillary Clinton never takes elections for granted.

Heck not only did she come to my small town in New York State this primary season, she sent Bill, too.

NYC Liberal

(20,138 posts)
25. So very conservative:
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jul 2016

    [*]Don't weaken or subvert the basic holding of Roe v. Wade
    [*]Don't deny privacy to women making health care decisions
    [*]Personally opposed to abortion, but it shouldn't be outlawed
    [*]Parental consent; ban partial birth; informed consent
    [*]Promote abstinence; ban partial-birth abortion
    [*]I have a faith-based opposition to abortion
    [*]Supports public abortion funding

    [*]Strong supporter of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
    [*]Obama fought for equal pay for women
    [*]Endorsed as "preferred" by The Feminist Majority indicating pro-women's rights
    [*]More funding & services for victims of domestic violence
    [*]YES on reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act

    [*]GOP agenda on gay marriage is divisive social legislation
    [*]Tried to pass laws favoring domestic partnerships
    [*]Opposes defining traditional marriage

    [*]Rated 0% by the AU, indicating support of separation of church & state

    [*]Let Medicare negotiate rates for prescription drug prices
    [*]Inaction was not a solution for healthcare
    [*]Adopt national health reform legislation before the end of the year
    [*]Opposes repealing ObamaCare
    [*]Religious exemption from ObamaCare individual mandate: Strongly Opposes

    [*]Fight against any privatization proposals
    [*]Lift the payroll tax cap
    [*]No dangerous privatization schemes for Social Security
    [*]Adamantly opposes privatization of Social Security
    [*]Rated 100% by ARA, indicating a pro-Trust Fund stance

    [*]Opposes school vouchers

    [*]YES on protecting ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems

    [*]Focus attention on the overuse of incarceration
    [*]Supports Project Exile’s longer mandatory sentences
    [*]Moratorium on the death penalty until it is fair
    [*]Rated 64% by the NAPO, indicating a moderate stance on police issues
    [*]
    [*]Limit high-capacity clips to no more than ten bullets
    [*]Strongly supports the Second Amendment
    [*]Supports restricting the Second Amendment
    [*]YES on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets

    [*]No budget-busting tax cuts; we can't afford to try it again!
    [*]Allow Bush tax cuts for wealthy to expire
    [*]Balance taxes: let Bush tax cuts expire at the top end
    [*]No need for millionaire's tax: just let Bush cuts expire
    [*]Opposes "Cut, Cap and Balance" as all cuts & no balance
    [*]Supports increasing tax rates on the wealthy
    [*]$12B in federal economic stimulus as state block grants

    [*]Make it easier for foreign students to get green cards
    [*]Seeks defined path to earned citizenship, plus DREAM Act
    [*]
    [*]Sponsored sugar quotas & import tariffs to stabilize prices: Strongly Opposes

    [*]Budget cuts made us vulnerable to Libya embassy attack
    [*]Let Bush tax cuts expire instead of automatic defense cuts
    [*]Focus on counter-terrorism and bioterrorism preparedness
    [*]Maintain the military presence in Virginia
    [*]
    [*]Public financing of federal campaigns by voter vouchers

    [*]We ended war in Iraq and are ending Afghan war now
    [*]Supported Obama's stopping the Iraq War
    [*]Americans were given inaccurate information regarding Iraq
    [*]
    [*]Cut subsidies to big oil companies
    [*]We are producing more energy than ever; find alternatives
    [*]We can't drill our way out; diversify our portfolio
    [*]Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025
    [*]
    [*]Anti-drug and anti-gang units in State Police

    [*]Tea Party's reckless economic policies create uncertainty
    [*]I cut state spending $5B while investing in infrastructure

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
29. Kaine is an awesome choice
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jul 2016

for capturing #neverTrump and a disaster for the progressives that already feel kicked to the curb. Dangerous gamble but I'm sure it has all been weighed out.
Question - Why would she be campaigning with Warren this afternoon and announce Kaine just before? Doesn't make sense to me. Maybe Warren after all?

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