2016 Postmortem
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But Kaine is the only one she met with twice
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Renew Deal
(81,901 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)demmiblue
(36,921 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,032 posts)I assume she's got a damn good reason but I can't imagine what it would be.
Renew Deal
(81,901 posts)Popular senator from a swing state.
Executive experience
Foreign policy experience
Keeps winning elections
Speaks spanish
The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,032 posts)because my impression of him has alw... ..... zzzz..... Oh, wait a second, what was I saying?
Renew Deal
(81,901 posts)Biden is kind of exciting and Cheney was conniving, but Gore, Quayle, Bush Sr., etc were all rather unexciting.
People are saying really nice things about this guy like he's got a great reputation.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,032 posts)Right now the only thing that really matters is defeating Trump, and I just hope whatever Kaine brings to the table will help that happen.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)but he's a loyal Democrat and he doesn't make mistakes, and his voting record is very middle-of-the-pack in the Dem caucus. Pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-gun control, anti-death penalty. Yes, he took until 2011 to be full-throated for LGBT rights, but if we don't allow our politicians to change their minds, then we can't call ourselves liberals.
Give the man a chance and don't immediately write him off because he's not Elizabeth Warren.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)See, this is why I love this place sometimes.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,032 posts)So did James Buchanan. I just don't think he's a very exciting (or progressive) choice. I have to think he was chosen because Clinton wanted to draw a strong contrast between the unpredictable, erratic and frightening garbage fire that the GOP has become with Trump as its leader, and a ticket of normal, sane, stable, reliable people who won't start WWIII. Still, I think others would have been at least as good.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Brown and Warren would have hit us in the Senate.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Fortunately his replacement will be chosen by a Democrat, rather than a Republican (Baker or Kasich).
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)A Dem is in the bag as a replacement.
lamp_shade
(14,853 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)If you don't want to be upstaged, you pick someone who is boring and mediocre. It's like a singer carefully selecting backup singers; They are never going to choose anyone who is as good or better than them.
obamanut2012
(26,201 posts)I get why he was picked: devout RC, did legit social justice missionary work, speaks fluent Spanish, has a good relationship with black leaders, no scandal, has evolved on choice and LGBT rights, handled the Tech Massacre aftermath well, can handle Pence in debates, and has never lost an election. Is a white male. Grew up in the Midwest.
And, getting VA would be a big help.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)He's also close with Joe.
He is solid, especially with all of the international and domestic terror issues as of late.