2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTrump & Putin. Yes, It's Really a Thing - Josh Marshall
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thingRead it. Devastating implications for Trump.
"Over the last year there has been a recurrent refrain about the seeming bromance between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. More seriously, but relatedly, many believe Trump is an admirer and would-be emulator of Putin's increasingly autocratic and illiberal rule. But there's quite a bit more to the story. At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through administrations of both parties. There is also something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support of Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men."
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
emulatorloo
(44,276 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)The whole Trump-Putin thing makes me nauseous.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)All those years of claims Democrats are selling out to the Kremlin, and look who is actually doing it.
fishwax
(29,152 posts)Sigh.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)MattP
(3,304 posts)Who knows what he is leaking to Putin
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)Makes his NATO policy look decidedly paid for.
TwilightZone
(25,525 posts)rather suspect, hmm?
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)I find those RT articles usually a pretty interesting balance. And it's hard to criticize the very thoughtful Thom Hartmann for his association with them. Compare Fox "News" with RT in terms of "fair and balanced." It will be interesting to see if much changes with Fox after Roger Ailes.
RonniePudding
(889 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)The Russian thing is streaming on MSNBC and was mentioned by Congressman Adam Smith. He also called Trump a "reality tv star". I'm loving it already, and these must be today's talking points.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,325 posts)Really scary. Donald needs to be watched closely because he will be sharing what he hears with Putin.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Also known as insider trading tips
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)You know how fucking serious this shit is when Paul Krugman uses an argument similar to what the right would use if even a whiff of this shit affected a Democratic candidate at any level:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/opinion/donald-trump-the-siberian-candidate.html
pscot
(21,024 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Kryptonite
tanyev
(42,692 posts)I'm betting she comes out with an unhinged rant doubling down on her support of Trump.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)from his front porch.
DinahMoeHum
(21,843 posts). . .the RNC convention last week?
Why did she not want to be anywhere near TrumpleThinSkin?
tanyev
(42,692 posts)I think she had to stay in Alaska to deal with Track's legal problems. As recently as July 20 she had a post on Breitbart scolding Ted Cruz for not endorsing Trump. Posts about both of these things are on the blog The Immoral Minority. I tried to grab links, but I'm on my ipad right now, and it wasn't cooperating.
wiggs
(7,826 posts)article. Makes tons of sense to me
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/understanding-trump_b_11144938.html
BREMPRO
(2,331 posts)direct vs systemic causation... family structure as frame for political influence.. etc etc.. very insightful
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)... That's espionage:
(b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense; or
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
Recall that Trump and Clinton are running for the office of Commander in Chief, so the email server break-in is inextricably connected to the national defense.
Also note that at the Republican Convention, Trump staffers intervened and removed language calling for material aid to the Ukraine:
"Trump staffers in the room, who are not delegates but are there to oversee the process, intervened," Washington Post columnist Josh Rogin wrote of the meeting at which the wording was changed. "By working with pro-Trump delegates, they were able to get the issue tabled while they devised a method to roll back the language."
http://www.voanews.com/content/proposed-gop-stance-on-ukraine-sparks-controversy/3429297.html
So there is already circumstantial evidence for collusion between Trump and the Russians.
And there is no statute of limitations, either. This will hang over Trump's head for the rest of his life.
fishwax
(29,152 posts)(This is actually linked in the TPM essay from the OP, but is worth pointing out on its own: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-russia-today-rt-kremlin-media-vladimir-putin-213833)
WIProgressive88
(314 posts)years though so I guess it makes sense they'd nominate his American counterpart...
merrily
(45,251 posts)Russia has had some crappy rulers, and any revolution makes rulers and the wealthy very nervous.
bucolic_frolic
(43,568 posts)by grabbing political power while aided by a foreign power
All in broad daylight
What's in those tax returns?
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Ilsa
(61,721 posts)Christians and Republicans, but not Americans. They have no allegiance to the US.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)MidwestTransplant
(8,015 posts)pieces of journalism this election year.
Onyrleft
(344 posts)"Putin And The Ditz"
RegexReader
(416 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,509 posts)K-I-S-S-I-N-G
Sorry I couldn't resist