2016 Postmortem
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I hosted a brunch this morning for my two college aged daughters and a dozen of their friends, all former Sanders supporters. When this issue came up, they all were unconcerned. To summarize their views they all thought that the DNC was bias toward Hillary all along, but they understood it as a given. Bernie was the outsider, billed himself that way, and Hillary has been an active Democrat for decades. Therefore, it was reasonable to assume that the individual Democrats running the DNC would be pro-Clinton. Bottom line, they felt that if Bernie had started sooner, and had made inroads with the party, then this would have been more of an issue. The DNC was under no legal obligation to be neutral. They to a person are all supporting Clinton/Kaine, and many are becoming active supporters.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)If everybody knows they are cheating, then it's okay.
</sarcasm>
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)and his diehard trolls.
Wikileaks is a Putin tool. I can't believe people are falling for this crap.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)have a home base where talking points are worked out before these posts are made.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to clean...preferably with PINE sol.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)It does not kill the germs that cause the stink.
RonniePudding
(889 posts)Move on and support the nominee, or just move on.
coyote
(1,561 posts)Pay no attention that the primary was rigged.
RonniePudding
(889 posts)That ship has sailed, etc.
It's about stopping Trump now.
coyote
(1,561 posts)RonniePudding
(889 posts)Tack her hide on the wall, be merry, celebrate till dawn. Knock yourself out.
Then it's back to the business of beating Trump and his acolyte, Putin.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But this is a big deal.
RonniePudding
(889 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I don't like foreign meddling just as much as you but Russia didn't write these emails. The DNC did.
RonniePudding
(889 posts)I'm infinitely more concerned that this country is on the cusp of electing a full blown Putin acolyte who wants to end NATO, get us out of the WTO and to allow his master to run roghshod over Eastern Europe. The emails are a fucking side show to the potential threat this country will face if the Cheeto Incubus is elected. If that doesn't disturb you more than then the DNC helping their favored candidate we're done here.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)PatSeg
(47,778 posts)I am not going to disregard the way Wasserman Schultz ran the DNC because Putin's relationship with Trump is a bigger story. I think we should expect that the media cover both stories, but they do tend to get stuck one story at a time.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Luis Miranda, the national communications director for the DNC, is seen in two separate email chains briefing reporters with both Politico and the Wall Street Journal. In one email thread with Politicos Daniel Strauss, Miranda told Strauss that he would point out some of the issues with Sen. Sanders DNC committee appointments off the record with Strauss to help him write his story. Strauss initially asked for Miranda to send the list of appointments over with no fingerprints attached.
ismnotwasm
(42,030 posts)Some of the issues Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Daniel Strauss <dstrauss@politico.com> Date: 05/08/2016 1:57 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "Miranda, Luis" <MirandaL@dnc.org> Subject: Re: Deep background question Point out what? (Sorry I'm sending this from two email accounts. I hate the iPhone) Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Miranda, Luis <MirandaL@dnc.org<mailto:MirandaL@dnc.org>> wrote: Off the record, If you get the list I'll point out. Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Daniel Strauss <dstrauss1987@me.com<mailto:dstrauss1987@me.com>> Date: 05/08/2016 1:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "Miranda, Luis" <MirandaL@dnc.org<mailto:MirandaL@dnc.org>> Subject: Re: Deep background question Sorry message was cut off before I could send: I get that and will ask but I'm getting very different claims from different people on how this all went down (for instance I'm still trying to verify that the Sanders people submitted ineligible names and weren't told to correct those names). Any way you can help me straighten that out? Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Miranda, Luis <MirandaL@dnc.org<mailto:MirandaL@dnc.org>> wrote: > > Off the record, you should request it from them, we don't divulge private communications from our candidates. However, since they raised it as an issue it would be surprising if they didn't send it to you. > ________________________________________ > From: Daniel Strauss [dstrauss1987@me.com<mailto:dstrauss1987@me.com>] > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 12:25 PM > To: Miranda, Luis > Subject: Deep background question > > Hey > > So we want to see the list of committee appointments the Sanders Folks submitted just to verify it was mostly staffers and ineligible figures. That possible with no fingerprints attached? > > Sent from my iPhone
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Do you think in future Democratic Primaries it's good for voters to feel like the fix is in? Some people on DU are sounding like Bush supporters in December 2000: Get over it! Move On!
This is not about Bernie or Hillary: It's about ethics. DWS behavior is in no way acceptable!
glennward
(989 posts)I would much prefer for them to talk about Trump/Putin.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Sad
Raspol
(20 posts)They want gossip and more gossip.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)And it doesn't sound like they were confused.
But, hey, since everyone assumed the DNC was biased as to the outcome of the primary and planned ways to make that outcome happen, then everything's cool.
It's a crazy world.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)there seems to be a collective shrug about this. How many of you can honestly say you are surprised?
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,991 posts)...wants a fight. They want Bernie to lead a Convention riot against Hillary - which would help Trump. fortunately, Bernie is not going to cooperate.
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Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)MFM008
(19,839 posts)I less than care ... except the media is ready to jump on anything to make our Democratic Convention look bad. There were protests last week at the Republican convention but I only saw one brief report on one protest otherwise you would have thought everything was wonderful in Trump Nation.
They LOVE it.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)It was very ugly and full of hate. The news showed the RNC for what it is....very angry and terrifed people raging about what they see as unfair.
Just his speech showed who and what they are.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Brunch sounds fun!!!