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Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:47 PM Jul 2016

Ok, I admit it.

As a Bernie supporter that vowed to vote for HRC should she be the nominee, Elizabeth Warren just gave me a reason to actually believe in Hillary.

What I am really tired of is seeing posts here that trash Bernie supporters and that needs to stop. I WILL vote HRC and I said I would that all along. I will put a measured trust in her. Because the very last thing I want is to see a DJT presidency. I want to believe in her. I still have reservations. But she is my nominee and I will support her.

It is time to come together to put an end to the craziness that is Donald J. Trump.

Who's with me?

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Ok, I admit it. (Original Post) Sophiegirl Jul 2016 OP
Unity! ... that is the theme of this convention! Greywing Jul 2016 #1
You and I are on the exact same page!! Siwsan Jul 2016 #2
The mutual sniping will be done before the Convention is over. Your candidate is now coming up. still_one Jul 2016 #3
Thank you. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #15
he is hitting it out of the park still_one Jul 2016 #16
He did. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #24
Study her actual history Whimsey Jul 2016 #4
This! It's amazing how people passionate people can be despite being bettyellen Jul 2016 #11
I am far from being uninformed. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #17
What did you learn today that swayed you then? bettyellen Jul 2016 #19
Truth be told... Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #21
You're right. I'm afraid I have a few friends who were totally misinformed and posting nonsense bettyellen Jul 2016 #23
There will always be those people Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #27
You're absolutely right! One is damaging his marriage with all bettyellen Jul 2016 #30
No. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #38
I considered the speech money DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #44
I'm sick of hearing ambitious women being demonized. Earn it ladies! bettyellen Jul 2016 #47
So am I DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #50
I'm sixty Whimsey Jul 2016 #33
I was not talking to you- or about you. And I don't owe you any links to any credentials... bettyellen Jul 2016 #36
I think the two of you may be misunderstanding-- spooky3 Jul 2016 #41
Then why dd you respond to my post instead of the topic? Whimsey Jul 2016 #42
It's been a great and rousing night fishwax Jul 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #6
Not "my people" Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #9
Personally I will when you release the Bernie Supporter in place of MichiganVote Jul 2016 #10
I think I just did. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #13
Then you do your parents, your role models and your teachers proud. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #14
My parents.. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #18
So were mine. :) I understand. Some of the best bigots around. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #20
It was just something.. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #22
True story... MichiganVote Jul 2016 #28
Growing up in West Texas.. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #37
That's right honey. They were wrong then and now. Live your conscience. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #39
I am so proud of our party paying honor to and recognizing Bernie! Greywing Jul 2016 #7
This Bernie supporter / donor / believer is WITH HER in November... Moostache Jul 2016 #8
Thank you for your comment. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #12
Sophie I have already said so :) yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #25
You are exactly right, Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #32
Yatta! yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #35
We are not trashing all Bernie supporters, just the FRINGE whose brains are stuck in zero reality. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #26
So... Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #29
I jumped in the pool as well the water is fine awake Jul 2016 #31
Honestly.. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #34
K & R 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #40
I'm > with > SophieGirl! Beartracks Jul 2016 #43
Bernie --> Hillary ===== UNITY relayerbob Jul 2016 #45
Agree Frances Jul 2016 #46
Let's win this, together. nt TeamPooka Jul 2016 #48
Thank you. The primaries are over...the war is over...everybody here needs to accept that. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #49
Old adage - raven mad Jul 2016 #51

still_one

(92,535 posts)
3. The mutual sniping will be done before the Convention is over. Your candidate is now coming up.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:50 PM
Jul 2016

Congratulations and job well done

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
4. Study her actual history
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jul 2016

And not the RNC tripe and male-generated hate crap and you might support her even without EW's endorsement.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
17. I am far from being uninformed.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jul 2016

I had a preference. I voted according to that.

To be honest, I did and do take issue with the amount of money she "earned" from Wall Street. That was my biggest issue. Now, if you can tell me how that is a good thing, I will happily listen with an open mind.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. What did you learn today that swayed you then?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:24 PM
Jul 2016

If I was wrong , forgive me but I have seen a lot of ignorance here, including giving Sanders credit for issues Hillary has been working on for 20 plus years. Lots of his supporters here spread misinformation and it was kind of a bummer. Nice to see people can still have an open mind.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
21. Truth be told...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jul 2016

I came late to the game of politics. I only knew the peripheral extent of politics. For most of the 90's, I was a single mom trying to provide for my two kids. But now, they are living their lives....so I have a bit more time. And they are full-on Dems.

At the time, I knew that GWB going to war with Iraq was an incredible mistake because he wanted to get back at Saddam trying to take out his daddy. I knew enough to understand that. There were no WMDs. Revenge was his motive.

So, at the time, I didn't spend much time in politics. I was too busy paying rent and feeding my kids. During the Republican reign of terror and distruction of this country.

Bottom line is, I will support HRC. And that should be all that matters. Unity, despite our differences.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
23. You're right. I'm afraid I have a few friends who were totally misinformed and posting nonsense
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jul 2016

Tonight - one being an article from before the primaries saying he still had a path - this week. Quite a few people I know seemed to want to remain completely uninformed. I'm wondering if some part of them just wanted to believe the worst because it helped their candidate. Kind of bummed to see them spread false information. We should be better than that.
Did not mean any offense! I thought Warren and FLOTUS were both incredible tonight.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
27. There will always be those people
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jul 2016

Who are fringe. Who's ears are closed. Who want what they want without looking at the bigger picture. I can't speak for those people. I can only speak for me.

Beat the Orange Racist Man!!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. You're absolutely right! One is damaging his marriage with all
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jul 2016

The hateful bullshit. The other just bringing up crazy stupid shit like Vince Foster. It's been ridiculous. But we're going to squash Trump. We women ain't buying what he is selling. Nope!

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
44. I considered the speech money
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:16 AM
Jul 2016

a nothingburger. You know why? She was a private citizen at the time. She had the right to earn income as a private citizen.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
50. So am I
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:06 AM
Jul 2016

It's funny how so many other men make so much MORE on the speaking circuit, yet she's the ONLY paid speaker that's given this kind of hell.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
33. I'm sixty
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jul 2016

and have been a democrat voting for over forty years. And I am uninformed? Plus I am an attorney who watched Reagan come in in 1980. Please explain to me my lack of information, and your credentials for being more informed than I am.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
36. I was not talking to you- or about you. And I don't owe you any links to any credentials...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jul 2016

So get over yourself.

spooky3

(34,537 posts)
41. I think the two of you may be misunderstanding--
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jul 2016

It looks to me as if you were agreeing with each other.

Sorry to butt in.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
42. Then why dd you respond to my post instead of the topic?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jul 2016

Your response was to me, and I thought you were addressing my post I have made the mistake of clicking the wrong response thread and if that is what you did, I understand. But I took your response to my post as an attack. After I posted my reply to you, I realized it was not an attack on me, but a general response to the subject. But I am able to admit a mistake.

Response to Sophiegirl (Original post)

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
9. Not "my people"
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jul 2016

Don't know who's people they were, but not mine. Get over your anger. Give those of us who are supporting the preferred candidate a break.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
10. Personally I will when you release the Bernie Supporter in place of
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jul 2016

Clinton/Kaine supporter.

Anything less is a house divided. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
13. I think I just did.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jul 2016

I will support her. I live in VA and have a great deal if respect for Tim Kaine. Never said otherwise.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
18. My parents..
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jul 2016

..were racist bigots. I learned a great deal from their racism. It is a shame that others growing up in the Bible Belt, as I did, don't learn the same. It is learned by people that are raised on hate. I often wonder how I escaped that kind of thinking.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
20. So were mine. :) I understand. Some of the best bigots around.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jul 2016

You escaped by being aware and alert. Be proud of yourself for being such a smart cookie.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
28. True story...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jul 2016

When I was girl, during the famed 68' riots, I was living in a SW Michigan town. The white men were all jerked out of shape about riots. My father was a hunter so he had numerous guns. And although there were some disturbances race wise in the city, it was largely confined to the inner city where we did not live. Regardless, these white northern male neighbors and my father patrolled the neighborhoods with shotguns, reifels etc.

Picture the next day, I have to take the city bus to get to my inner city Catholic HS. And as I rode the bus into the city after an evening of the 'patrols', I saw children in the cold Fall morning air without shoes, coats and old men warming themselves next to barrel fires. Poverty is what I saw. So the whole thing struck me as a big lie, racism, and I never forgot.

You probably saw something like that too. Today I work in schools and I regularly see kids accept diversity that adults still struggle with. Its a lesson to us all.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
37. Growing up in West Texas..
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:15 AM
Jul 2016

There were far many more Hispanics living amongst us than "white" people. As a young teen, my best friend was a boy of Hispanic heritage. My mother decided I couldn't be friends with him anymore. Cuz, you know...boys and girls...do things... That young man became a force for equal rights in Texas. Not an easy thing to do in that part of the country. I'm proud of him. My elementary school dance partner. Still dancing around the people that think he isn't amongst the best of them. They are wrong and they will continue to be wrong.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
8. This Bernie supporter / donor / believer is WITH HER in November...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:57 PM
Jul 2016

I wanted a Sanders-Warren ticket and in my heart believe that would have been in the best interests of the country, but there is no choice to be made. Hillary is our nominee. Kaine is her running mate. They are our hope to avoid catastrophe.

WE must GET OUT THE VOTE, get people to the polls in the swing states, get people out and spread the revolution by the only means available. Sanders campaign was more than him, it was more than his personality to me. There were so many ideas of his added to the platform and the divide between Clinton and the Talking Yam so clear and the decision such a no-brainer, this is a clear choice.

I'm with her, period, full stop.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
12. Thank you for your comment.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jul 2016

I appreciate a fellow supporter who's main goal is to defeat the orange egomaniac.

My vote is NOT against the Donald because I don't like our duly elected nominee. It is because I believe she will be exponentially better as President.

Not my first choice, but by FAR the better candidate. And I can honestly say I believe that as truth. I don't hate her. Not by any means. I think she will be a fine President. And I will support her.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
32. You are exactly right,
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jul 2016

This election is truly not so much about the WH. It is about SCOTUS. It will be HRC. But her nominations to SCOTUS will carry us for decades to come. THAT is why she has my vote.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
26. We are not trashing all Bernie supporters, just the FRINGE whose brains are stuck in zero reality.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jul 2016

We know most Bernie supporters will back Hillary. But there is a zero-reality wild-eyed vocal fringe that needs to grow up, get their brains in the right place, and see that it is Trump who is the enemy and must not be allowed to win and leave our country in smoldering ashes.

awake

(3,226 posts)
31. I jumped in the pool as well the water is fine
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jul 2016

The movement lives on we will just have a different person in the Whitehouse with Bernie and Elizabeth writing the Laws in Congress for Hillary to sign

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
49. Thank you. The primaries are over...the war is over...everybody here needs to accept that.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jul 2016

Any other response is hopelessly self-indulgent.

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