have all the delegations stand up and state how they voted. It'll underline how many delegates he got so he can use that to continue his revolution going forward.

The delegations won't point out that a solid minorities in each state who voted for Bernie in the primary were actually hostiles who would never have voted for him in the general and that as a result the delegate counts significantly overstate the numbers who sincerely voted for him. I'm kind of anal about watching people lie with numbers, so I'll be grinding my teeth a bit tonight, but he has a revolution to run.

Btw, new Pew data say 90% of Bernie's consistent supporters also now support Hillary for president. Right on the number projected by analysts long ago, with still time for more to join.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)

2. My guess is that a key swing state like Ohio will be deferred to

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Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:37 PM

Jul 2016

put her over the top--maybe Pennsylvania.

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)

3. They always change around the order so the home state gets to put the nominee over the top.

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Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:38 PM

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Rincewind

(1,209 posts)

6. Not always,

Reply to eastwestdem (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:50 AM

Jul 2016

in 2008, New York, not Illinois put Obama over the top. The New York votes were given by on of their Senators, a certain H R Clinton. What ever happened to her?

JI7

(89,289 posts)

9. in 2004 it was Ohio because of the importance that state would be to win . 2008 made sense for unity

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Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:40 AM

Jul 2016

i think 2016 could be any number of states from Illinois, Arkansas, New York etc.

this is one of the most fun parts of the convention .

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

11. That was done on purpose to show unity between Obama and Clinton, but typically the home state

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Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:32 AM

Jul 2016

puts the nominee over the top.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

12. :) Couple years ago I saw her picture in one of those

Reply to Rincewind (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:41 AM

Jul 2016

"10 politicians who you won't believe what they're doing today" pieces.

Thanks for the chat on this, guys. I've never paid much attention to polling orders,so it's interesting.

marybourg

(12,650 posts)

4. It's usually orchestrated

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Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:38 PM

Jul 2016

by "yielding," so that a state special to the candidate gets to put them over.

st17011864200074656

(190 posts)

7. I just hope they don't bury it after 11 on day 2 as in 2004 and in 2012;

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Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:01 AM

Jul 2016

by the time the later states voted, the hall was emptying out. Better to do it early in the day so all the delegates can be apart of the celebration, and it will be news heading into primetime.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)

8. I hope Vermont gets a chance to go as a nod to Bernie.

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Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:03 AM

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