2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Sanders Hold Outs are a Problem for Clinton
July 25, 2016 By Taegan Goddard
New data and analysis shared with FiveThirtyEight from Catalist and SurveyMonkey shows that, before the 2016 primaries, Sanderss supporters voted less frequently than other 2016 voters, and they were less reliably Democratic than Clinton supporters. In other words, its not a matter of Clinton simply coaxing Sanders supporters back into the fold many were never in the fold to begin with. That could increase the difficulty of the task facing Clinton.
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https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/25/why-sanders-hold-outs-are-a-problem-for-clinton/
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)DinahMoeHum
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. . .if, it is said, nearly 90% of the Sanders delegates/supporters/voters will vote for her.
She and Kaine will now go after the independent voters and the disaffected among the Republicans who are disgusted with TrumpleThinSkin.
OnDoutside
(19,988 posts)Demsrule86
(68,872 posts)I have put up with Hillary being treated disrespectfully too long...toss them out.
OnDoutside
(19,988 posts)aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)at a democratic convention.
aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)Maybe not for rjsquirrel rules, but by DNC rules.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)for our party. I was speaking prospectively of the importance of going to a completely closed primary system.
aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)into third party camps or get behind moderate republicans.
The solution to the problems of diversity is not to force homogeneity.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Force people to make a choice in advance rather than be guided by momentary emotions.
We have plenty of heterogeneity without the left version of the tea party. As with the republicans, giving your radical fringe voices more say than your reliable rank and file base voters (working class and minority voters) is a recipe for disaster.
Trump is the outcome of rational republicans tolerating the tea party insurgency out of cynicism.
Some kinds of diversity are not good. Bending our party's culture in the direction of the campus left has lost us many elections in my lifetime.
DinahMoeHum
(21,844 posts). . .and I don't mean the ones participating in those side-show street demonstrations, either.
I meant those voters who are home, who are watching this convention on TV/livestream, etc who, while they may be disgusted at TrumpleThinSkin, still can't bring themselves to pull the lever for Hillary.
Those are the ones Clinton and Kaine will be courting when they go on the road with their show.
aikoaiko
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BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Their parents raised them on Prozac and adderall and gave them prizes for getting out of bed. They are privileged young white people, for the most part college educated or in college now.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Here's a pillow to land on, kids. Don't hurt yourselves now.
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C_U_L8R
(45,047 posts)They're being played like a fiddle.
I trust they'll figure that out sooner or later.
Besides we're a team... And you don't get no
trophy until you win. So as Michelle Obama
said, let's get to work.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)A reliable fool in the American political comedy.
Demsrule86
(68,872 posts)you had big rallies but fewer votes for Sanders...thus we won't miss them...never had them. I doubt they will even vote for Green asshat Jill Stein or Comrade Heil Trump.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That stench you are smelling isn't coming from Sanders supporters. It's coming from privileged little twits banking off mommy and daddy's bank account while thinking they are a disadvantaged class.
timlot
(456 posts)the attacks in Benghazi 2 months before the election has disappeared? Not buying it. Some young voters, like the young lady on MSNBC last night with the Bernie tattoo, will be harder to get to because Bernie to them is almost like a cult leader. Where its become less about the message Bernie is talking about (most of which Hillary as adopted) and more about some bazaar idolization of the man.