2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGet Palestinian flag wavers out of the DNC convention!
I didn't see it until this morning, and I have heard false rumors that there were more Palestinian flags than American flags at the convention. That's not true.
http://www.snopes.com/flags-banned-at-dnc/
https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/07/26/reports-palestinian-flags-outnumber-american-flags-at-democratic-national-convention/
However, some delegate raised a big Palestinian flag. This kind of stuff is a distraction, a foreign flag, will help Donald Trump in swing states, and is counter to the view of We, the People, on the broad level think this
Orsino
(37,428 posts)I think we need more Palestinian flags. Might actually lead to more realistic policy discussions.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)Don't go over so well with the electorate, especially as Palestinian terror groups like Hamas yell the same thing as members of Isis when they carry out their evil deeds.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)ericson00
(2,707 posts)On 9/11?
https://m.
runaway hero
(835 posts)Seriously?
ericson00
(2,707 posts)Footage which is unquestioned in its integrity.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)It's like every stereotypical satire of the left,like man buns and Che t-shirts.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Politicians who don't want protests had better offer great policy.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)convention hall all you want.
Chiquitita
(752 posts)It looks lovely to me, and hair is non partisan. The bun, on anyone, can be a natural look, and it's none of our business. For me it seems like a perfectly nice thing out of youth culture. Not everyone wants short hair.
And for a smile check out how our presidents might look with manbuns, including Lincoln: http://www.popsugar.com/beauty/Politicians-Man-Buns-38918062?slide=6
Orsino
(37,428 posts)The Establishment and brain-dead MSM don't want us acknowledging it, but the things you listed should all be addressed by intellugent, humane policy. Not flag bans.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)Nor would the Israel flag, the South Korean flag, the Aussie flag, etc
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I object to your objection to the ROK flag. Several of my Korean friends are some of the greatest classical musicians in the world.
And then there is bimbimbap and Korean Bar-B-Que...
Oh, and SUJO !!
ummmmmmm
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)and Republican tactics?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)question everything
(47,616 posts)I've always had trouble with people waving Mexican flags when they want to change U.S. laws.
You don't wave a foreign flag during talks about U.S. laws.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)that voted in the thoroughly corrupt abbas or the terrorists in hamas to be their leaders is really what the Democrats need right now? It's insulting and will only hurt our party. Fly whatever fucking flag you want at your home. The US is the ONLY country's flag that should be flying at the convention.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)...whom US policy specifically recognizes and accommodates can become valuable allies. I don't expect the GOP to be grown-up enough to sign on, and I want Democrats leading the way.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)that NO other country's flag should be flown at any convention. When the Palestinians act like responsible adults who want peace, I'm sure the Democrats will be ready to listen.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)And the Palestinian people are not all the terrorsts you imagine them to be.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)so you can stop losing this discussion by shoving words in my mouth any time now. They VOTED in a terrorist organization to be their leaders (the Palestinians in gaza). That is not something I want my party to be any part of.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)They will face inconvenient protests until good solutions are in place.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)decide what to do about their leaders - then they'll have to deal with the consequences. I don't believe they need to be treated as children. But that's just me.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)I would go so far as to add that their flag ought not to be erased, any more than any other flag of people we need to partner with.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)Should "be erased."
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Flags standing for entire peoples ought to be seen. Even if one doesn't agree on that point, one must admit that banning such things sends a very particular message.
I would welcome Mexican and Cuban flags, but not Confederate flags. Real nations containing real people have value.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)NOBODY is asking for the flag to be ERASED. Just not to be flown at a party convention. NO other country's flag should be flown at the party convention. Are you pretending not to understand the difference?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)And would signal cowardice.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Neither Israeli nor Palestinian flags ought to be flown.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)far enough back into my head to convey the way I view your histrionics on this.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...that wouldn't constitute erasure.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Just that it's in horrible taste to fly ANY other country's flag during a party convention. Go fly 100 of their flags at your house, nobody will care.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Opposing foreign flags generally is a defensible position, though I would personally welcome such signs of pluralism in the modern era of GOP paranoia and xenophobia.
A general ban would certainly sidestep charges of erasure.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to fly a foreign flag during a party convention is NOT erasing the flag. Hyperbole is not helping your case at all.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Letting the thread be about the Palestinian flag may have been unintentional, and was not a defensible case to make.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Although it was that flag that the OP was about. It wasn't specifically the Palestinian flag I objected to (although flying that particular flag turns my stomach) but that ANY foreign country's flag should fly at a party convention. Not good visuals, not good politics, not common sense.
Bettie
(16,151 posts)not actually people or anything.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)waved at the convention?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Or, just bitching about Palestinian flags.
Let's say some people were waving... oh... Sri Lankan flags.
What would you feel, or better yet, think, about that?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)ammunition?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)illegal occupation and settlements, I don't think foreign flags are appropriate at a convention, just for the sake of decorum.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)I'm with you on this.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)with an American citizen being passionate about an issue close to their heart.
Do we take away all the NO TPP signs that were being held up even though it goes against PBO?
Two-state solution. My $.02
ericson00
(2,707 posts)Or one of a close ally nonetheless.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)the terrorist hamas supporters. That's who they voted into power.
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SheenaR
(2,052 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Of course, in the eyes of some, that will mean I hate Jewish people.
Like some of the people in the group of townhouses in which I live eem to think..
Maru Kitteh
(28,350 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,350 posts)that is the root of this issue. Okay then.
Good to know.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)if you do it at the democratic convention. How hard is that to understand?
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)foreign nations and foreign wars I'll be against flying foreign flags at the Democratic Convention. Now doing such is totally appropriate as a protest to US policy.
6chars
(3,967 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,514 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)PS. I have a Puerto Rican towel/flag as my 'step-out-of-the-shower mat.
Love it !!!
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,514 posts)Thx.
Maru Kitteh
(28,350 posts)Not a difficult concept.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)US State and territory flags are totally appropriate.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)OMG !!!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)So that would be different from a foreign flag, which I don't think would be appropriate.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I'm fine with whatever.
Personally, I don't think foreign countries' flags should be flying at our convention.
People don't wave the Stars and Stripes at Labor Party gatherings.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)Especially large ones that cause a distraction and also promote views that will hurt us in November
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)this isn't the UN
pangaia
(24,324 posts)About 2" long, and stick it in my hat?
ericson00
(2,707 posts)Go ahead.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)to wave around ANY foreign flag at a political party convention. No matter WHAT party.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)As an aside, from the same polling that you cite to support your proposed ban:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/189626/americans-views-toward-israel-remain-firmly-positive.aspx
ericson00
(2,707 posts)At an American political convention?
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)ETA: and as it turns out there was bit more to it.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)American flags, of course.
State flags, fine.
organizational flags (unions, rights groups, etc), ok.
flags of other nations? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)rockfordfile
(8,712 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)independentpiney
(1,510 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Twitter would probably explode.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)n/t
greatauntoftriplets
(175,776 posts)runaway hero
(835 posts)If someone else did this they would be alerted.
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...in the Middle East, as it relates to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and the possibility of an eventual peaceful resolution, is very much a Presidential Campaign issue in 2016, that deserves respectful and evenhanded representation at the Democratic Convention.
I've seen no dearth of American flags or enthusiastic patriotism at the convention so far. The idea that American nationalism could possibly be upstaged by one Palestinian flag at the 2016 Democratic Convention is petty and ludicrous.
TYY
ericson00
(2,707 posts)he reads like someone who isn't behind our nominee: his ilk should leave the party.
https://twitter.com/AliAkinK/with_replies