2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumConservative reviews - DNC Convention was a DISASTER FOR THE GOP. Brutal.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conservatives-agree-dnc-was-disaster-for-gopChasstev365
(5,191 posts)Just compare the speaker's list without hearing a word and it says it all!
Renew Deal
(81,901 posts)It's totally their fault.
underpants
(183,063 posts)They were done in 2006. Only the media (their product is drama) and gerrymandering have kept them alive.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,089 posts)Metro135
(359 posts)I would never write them off, or turn my back on them, thinking they're permanently "finished." Everything goes in cycles anyway. But the only reason they've been able to maintain the House is through gerrymandering and voter suppression.
That said, if Hillary wins in November -- and I believe she will -- the Supreme Court will veer left for a generation. And for that alone we should sigh a BIG sigh of relief.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,089 posts)LonghornJack
(136 posts)Metro135, your second comment is right on!
My fondest wish for this election is that Hillary wins so that we can get some level-headed appointees on our Supreme Court. I have been so tired and frustrated with the Republican justices deciding cases on the basis of their politics. We would not have been stuck with W for eight years, if we had just had one less GOP justice on that court in 2000. We also wouldn't have uncontrolled campaign spending or a gutted Voting Rights Act.
I am so looking forward to seeing competent justices on the high court again.
Go Hillary!
LHN
Renew Deal
(81,901 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,399 posts)Read it and weep tears of joy, folks.
BainsBane
(53,137 posts)in terms of the party's traditional roles/strengths. And Trump made it all possible. Insulting the troops was about the worst thing Trump could have done to the GOP brand. He left a massive opening for the Democrats.
getagrip_already
(14,995 posts)Are in full bore capitulation. They are eulogizing the Republican party and Trumpism. I normally hate these guys, but they have nothing bad to say about us this morning.
They have Madelaine Albright on and are actually having a positive conversation.
I am in as much shock as they are.....
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)this campaign.
Those of us who lived through the Bush years are gonna enjoy watching them reap this toxic harvest.
AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)We are the ones who will give no quarter to them in their downfall!
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Do you know how old I am? Old enough to remember when speeches like this would've been given at GOP convention
Not Dem one. Brutal.
Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) July 29, 2016
spooky3
(34,540 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)so in your face to the GOP.
Brilliant
ailsagirl
(22,912 posts)underpants
(183,063 posts)I didn't see it.
ailsagirl
(22,912 posts)I'd rather it be posted twice than not at all
Chemisse
(30,829 posts)dembotoz
(16,866 posts)i better stop now
don't want an alert
IronLionZion
(45,677 posts)dembotoz
(16,866 posts)before you alert for being anti dem please check the context of the conservative comments in the original posts
IronLionZion
(45,677 posts)But as Ray-Gun got lots of Democratic voters and won a landslide election. We will win a landslide election as we unify much of America against that troll.
GOP doesn't own patriotism or faith or family values.
AllyCat
(16,276 posts)You are right they don't own patriotism or family values. In fact, I would argue that the Dems have owned them all along. But it is tough to swallow when the GOP says we sound like Reagan. Reagan was terrible for our nation. I don't want to follow that lead.
Justice
(7,188 posts)We are taking it back.
IronLionZion
(45,677 posts)We're certainly not going to govern like Reagan. Our platform is liberal.
But if sounding like Reagan helps us win, then let's do it!
dembotoz
(16,866 posts)AllyCat
(16,276 posts)Socially liberal, fiscally conservative.
lordcommander
(215 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)But, then, thanks to the Tea Party and Trumpism, the GOP as edged passed the far-right radical fringe into the realm of fascism.
underpants
(183,063 posts)2 years ago bucking Fox News would have been a political death sentence for a Republican.
Now, Trump went right at them and they buckled to him. He threw away the dog whistles and their true colors came out. the party lost control to Fox News and then Fox News lost control.
He basically called President Obama the N-word at his last press conference. His followers know exactly what he meant.
My DU Thread
thucythucy
(8,139 posts)not as he actually was.
They see Reagan as this patriotic, avuncular saint who never said or did anything wrong. In fact, except for a more slick delivery, Reagan had much more in common with Trump than they'll ever admit.
Reagan started his campaign with a major dog whistle--making his first stop at the town in Mississippi where four civil rights workers were killed.
Reagan routinely said things that anyone with half a mind found embarrassing: about Latin America, "You'd be surprised, they're all different countries down there," about the environment, "trees cause air pollution... you've seen one redwood, you've seen them all..." about history, "Vietnam was always two countries...." I could go on and on.
Reagan was mean spirited (accused Dukakis of being mentally ill), a rabid red-baiter (accused disability rights activists protesting brutal conditions in state institutions of being communists), a homophobe who allowed the AIDS epidemic to go unchecked...
Etc. etc. etc.
We don't sound anything like THAT at all.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)The fact that these people THINK they were ever truly like what they heard speaks volumes for how easy it is to hear what you want to and how insidious the GOP tactic of projectionism truly is...
The GOP has been projecting their flaws onto the Democrats since at least the Reagan years, but never more so than in 2000 and 2004. I STILL seethe with anger over the Swift Boat fraudsters and the Cheney presidency with the commander in chimp along for signing duties.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Facebooked and retweeting myself
Having worked in all of the places that I have, my facebook especially is filled with people from all walks of life, and political leanings. Throughtout the primary process, the ones that are pro republican and the ones who've been pro Trump have been strangely silent these last few days.
8 years ago, and younger Democratic Party Presidential Candidate Barak Obama promised us Hope and Change.
Yes, there is a long way still to go, but looking at the convention contrasts.. How can anyone deny that he DID deliver???
YES WE CAN!!!!
spooky3
(34,540 posts)Thanks!
rocktivity
(44,588 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 29, 2016, 07:11 PM - Edit history (4)
...If the goal is to reach independents and conservatives uneasy (with) Trump, well done Democrats.
Well, duh -- they're the ones who were "uneasy" with Mitt when he wouldn't show his tax returns.
P.S:
Sources connected with CAA -- the talent agency which reps Bieber and received the offer...(said) he would perform for 45 minutes at a venue near Quicken Loans Arena, where the RNC was held. We're told the promoter assured Justin's people the event was "not political..."
According to the contract, the $5 million was bankrolled by GOP donors..Justin...(a) Canadian...would not be endorsing Trump or any GOP policies...(but he) could say nothing disparaging about Trump or the GOP...(H)e seriously considered doing it...(But his) manager Scooter Braun, a big Hillary Clinton supporter who even held a fundraiser for her at his L.A. home...said he couldn't continue to represent the singer if he did, out of principle...(He) and CAA felt (that) regardless of the representations, this was "100 percent political."
rocktivity
underpants
(183,063 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)and today Trump is tweeting bad comments about General Allen. Trump is about to lose the military too.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Thanks for the link!
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Yup.
renate
(13,776 posts)"Why this convention is better: It's about loving America. GOP convention was about loving Trump. If you didn't love Trump, it offered nada."
That's it in a nutshell: "GOP convention was about loving Trump."
underpants
(183,063 posts)You've lost everything (in conservative world)