2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOn Morning JoeI heard a reporter on the Baltimore PD situation mention Martin O'Malley 's
tenure as mayor and connecting it to the huge percentage growth in arrests in that city over several years and its impact on the black community...
I am wondering if this was a deliberate attempt to poke holes in O'Malley's campaign before it ever begins...
Or am I just being paranoid...
bravenak
(34,648 posts)If you check out his on the issues, you'll see he's kind of a drug warrior and a broken windows policy type governor.
CTyankee
(63,914 posts)I'm probably a little too paranoid when it comes to the media these days...
bravenak
(34,648 posts)The media is just another business, sadly.
CTyankee
(63,914 posts)okaawhatever
(9,469 posts)them mentioned O'Malley, even a NPR interview with the former police chief. Even the story about the trends in Baltimore policing. I also wonder why they would interview a reporter at this stage. There should be plenty of people who are directly involved in this case, why a reporter?
I absolutely believe his statement was planned. In the days of sponsored content and multi-billion dollar campaigns we should expect that every story will have an agenda.
Rush Limbaugh does not make money off of his advertising. In fact, he can barely fill up his slots with free messages for non-profits. What he does do is get paid millions to talk about certain people or events. He is pushing an agenda in every broadcast and making big money doing it.
FSogol
(45,562 posts)windows policy as did almost every major city. By the end of his Mayoral term he moved away from that policy. He did not employ those methods as Governor.
From a 2010 article in the Baltimore Sun:
A lawsuit filed in 2006 on behalf of 14 people alleged that their arrests indicated a broad pattern of abuse in which thousands of people were routinely arrested without probable cause. The suit also alleged that the so-called "zero tolerance" system was endorsed and enforced by city officials under the tenure of then-mayor Martin O'Malley.
In a joint statement with the plaintiffs, the police department said it has agreed to institute policies that reject the "zero tolerance policing" and establish a range of appropriate officer responses to minor offenses. The department will issue written directives that spell out the elements of common minor offenses to ensure that officers are aware of the scope of their authority, and will train every officer on the new policies for offenses, the statement said.
Arrests in the city have fallen by the tens of thousands since O'Malley became governor, and the ACLU and NAACP said in the statement that they recognize that the current city leadership has taken steps to address the issue and "applaud those efforts."
Edited to add the link:
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-06-23/news/bal-naacp-settlement-0623_1_arrests-by-city-police-zero-tolerance-naacp-and-aclu
merrily
(45,251 posts)I am hoping against hope for a viable Democratic challenger to Hillary and would like to believe only good things about O'Malley. Still, your post does not disprove what the OP says.
FSogol
(45,562 posts)of the drop in NYC's crime rate. By the mid 00s, everyone was moving away from it due to over-policing, arresting innocent people, profiling, etc. He employed those policies when he arrived as Mayor, but moved away from them for the reasons stated. The number of arrests dropped each year in Baltimore as did the crime rate. Unlike say, Giuliani, O'Malley changed, evolved, and modified his approach until he got a fairer/more workable system.
The efforts to link a current police brutality case in Baltimore to a man who hasn't been the mayor there for 7-1/2 years is pretty ridiculous.
merrily
(45,251 posts)The efforts to link a current police brutality case in Baltimore to a man who hasn't been the mayor there for 7-1/2 years is pretty ridiculous.
Maybe, but that is a separate issue from how O'Malley behaved as Mayor.
FSogol
(45,562 posts)O'Malley didn't govern that way as Governor and ended those policies toward the end of his tenure as mayor in favor of focusing on repeat criminals and more community-based policing.
merrily
(45,251 posts)FSogol
(45,562 posts)brush
(53,925 posts)That is a bone of contention because the new mayor has publicly stated that she doesn't want to go back to the "mass arrest" policy that O'Malley employed as mayor.
This was discussed here on DU 3 or 4 weeks back as O'Malley began to emerge as a possible Dem presidential candidate.
This made many, including myself, think twice about O'Malley.
brush
(53,925 posts)Rawlings-Blake is not a fan of the mass arrests policy.
FSogol
(45,562 posts)that during a period from the 1990-2006 it was the favored method in major cities.
brush
(53,925 posts)just less than 2 years ago so we can't fall back on the 1990-2006 argument.
FSogol
(45,562 posts)AAR, I'm sure this will come up during the primaries.
brush
(53,925 posts)He's arguing for more arrests in the black community and we all know, from what we've seen lately that will lead to more killings of black males by cops.
This, IMO, weakens O'Malley's progressive credentials and viability as a dem presidential candidate.
FSogol
(45,562 posts)read between lines.
brush
(53,925 posts)advocating for more of that does not sit well with me.
O'Malley is going to have to come clean on this up because he's going to be grilled on the campaign about it.
FSogol
(45,562 posts)election. Below is what O'Malley has said about Freddie Gray's death. Nowhere does he advocate for more of the same.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/04/21/omalley-urges-transparency-in-investigation-baltimore-mans-death-in-police-custody/
elleng
(131,231 posts)for thorough discussion on this now important matter.
merrily
(45,251 posts)If it is true, it's a fair comment. Do they always go back to see who USED to be mayor of a town where something bad is happening now? No. Given he may run for President, it is more relevant? Yes. Do I ever trust Morning Joe's motives? No.
CTyankee
(63,914 posts)This was a pretty horrific story...I was just depressed after seeing that segment...
merrily
(45,251 posts)We have to choose the best, or least worst, of what is available to us.
CTyankee
(63,914 posts)more and is living in Florida now. We have a pretty decent (so far) woman (first ever in this city) who was a businesswoman now running the city. I was a bit skeptical, even tho she is a neighbor and goes to the same nail place as I do. I've known her for some time. So far, so good...
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)No saints required, no jackasses welcomed.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I wish I could have had a word with Andrew Jackson about that, but it's too late now.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)A veto would not have been overridden, so a true drug warrior could have killed it.
O'Malley has been a leader on and champion for many progressive issues but drug policy is not one of them. At best, he's no longer standing in the way.
However, as a political issue, signing the bill is something he's going to get criticized for, at least in a general election. He might actually come out looking like the pro-pot candidate!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I am being very cautious about O'Malley.