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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:02 PM Apr 2015

The Middle East Policy of President Bernie Sanders

http://www.juancole.com/2015/04/president-bernie-sanders.html

Bernie Sanders opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq and subsequent occupation of that country.

Sanders wanted to get out of Afghanistan from 2011 much faster than the timetable announced by President Obama. Obama has now more or less extended a US military presence in Afghanistan, advertised as a training mission, indefinitely. My reading of Sanders is that he would get out of that country entirely....

Note that Sanders accepts the Washington consensus that Iran is trying to get a nuclear weapon, which Iran denies. Sanders has slammed the GOP obstructionists of the talks for “itching” for a war with Iran. He himself says that a war with Iran should be avoided ‘at all costs.’ However, it is not clear what he would do if the current talks broke down and he became convinced as president that the Iranians had developed a nuclear weapons program.

Sanders opposed the US taking the lead in the aerial campaign against Daesh (ISIS or ISIL) in Iraq and Syria, asking where the Arabs were and saying that American kids shouldn’t be dying to protect Saudi Arabia. The money spent on that bombing, he said, should have gone to help the US middle classes.


"President Bernie Sanders" has a nice ring to it!
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The Middle East Policy of President Bernie Sanders (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2015 OP
Since nuclear weapons are an almost necessary byproduct of nuclear power... malthaussen Apr 2015 #1
Yes, and I'm finding that he speaks for me in many ways. What are the odds? libdem4life Apr 2015 #2
That would be a decent pick davidpdx May 2015 #4
His foreign policy is the same as mine Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2015 #3

malthaussen

(17,219 posts)
1. Since nuclear weapons are an almost necessary byproduct of nuclear power...
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:48 PM
Apr 2015

... it is hard to imagine that Iran doesn't hope to obtain one. Unlike many, though, I don't see this as the crack of doom. As has been pointed out many times before, exactly one nuclear power has actually used the things, and continues to use them in the form of depleted uranium shells, which are actually not of "depleted" but "reduced" radioactivity. I guess I just can't get too excited about the fox (in the form of the US) guarding the henhouse. Furthermore, a nuclear warhead is worth nothing without a delivery system, and most of the countries we worry about having nuclear capacity have no delivery system worth worrying about. Even great bogey-man Korea can still only reach Japan with its missiles, which are of marginal reliablility to begin with. And if a country with as insane a leadership as North Korea hasn't used nukes on their neighbors, why should we suspect Iran of being more insane?

It is interesting to me that people seem to disregard the fact that the best way to increase a country's standard of living is to provide cheap, reliable electrical power to its people, which means nukes at this point in history, despite the obvious drawbacks. Yet because we play the "nuclear weapon" card, we can deny any other country the right to develop nuclear power, and thus forcibly relegate them to the status of a second-rate country. Seems rather like a relict of colonialism to me.

-- Mal

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. Yes, and I'm finding that he speaks for me in many ways. What are the odds?
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:13 PM
Apr 2015

Seems Obama came out of nowhere...politically speaking...and made it happen.

More and more I'd like to see Bernie Sanders and Julian Castro. I know, neither are women, but I'm going to encourage policy and political background history first. Hillary will be OK if that's what happens.

Mostly I'm for the New Generation...Julian Castro. Either primary winner needs to seek him as their VP. He's the future, IMO

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
4. That would be a decent pick
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:37 AM
May 2015

Though we are talking long odds, if it did happen Castro could run in 2020. The first Hispanic vice-president (and then president) would be great. I'd say maybe it would drive some of the racists out of the US, but that didn't happen after President Obama was elected. I guess we can keep wishing.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
3. His foreign policy is the same as mine
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:41 PM
Apr 2015

He has to contend with the warmongers and will have a lot of resistance.

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