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Jun 10, 2015 9:37 AM EDT
By Leonid Bershidsky
When Barack Obama spoke in Berlin in 2008, one could see how and why he would get to be U.S. president. When Jeb Bush made his appearance here Tuesday, he showed how and why he probably won't.
In 2008, a crowd of 200,000 gathered to hear Obama at the Victory Column in Tiergarten. He started by talking about his father, who herded goats in Kenya and yearned for the freedoms and opportunities of the West. It was an easy transition from there to Berliners' own such yearnings, and to the U.S. airlift that kept West Berlin alive during the Soviet blockade.
Obama's narrative was one of partnership: No amount of U.S. help would have worked without Germans' determination, he said. His audience cheered; they could relate to that.
On Tuesday, Bush arranged to speak before a much smaller audience of about 1,000 suits at the annual business conference organized by Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Party. Bush also referred to his father. George H. W. Bush was no goatherd, but he is respected in Germany for helping to bring about the country's reunification. For Bush senior's second son, however, talking about the 41st U.S. president was a way of not bringing up the 43rd, his older brother.
"The Bush name now stands for loutishness and amateurism, as well as for the world where might makes right," the business weekly Wirtschaftswoche wrote in advance of the Bush visit. Most Germans would agree.
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http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-06-10/jeb-bush-flunked-his-berlin-test
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)They like it straight-forward, good or bad, they like it honest. Once you start mincing words, once you start with flattery, once you get friendly and diplomatic, that's when they start distrusting you.
(He contrasted the Germans to the Austrians who are friendly and polite all the time... although they don't mean it.)
Obama came across as honest. Bush came across as a suit telling anything to get the audience to like him. Honest criticism of Germany, even that would have scored him some points, but not this pathetic sweet-talking.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I was thinking about how the speech writing went before he spoke...I bet they had to parse every word.
And, since Bush is more concerned with himself, he obviously did not bother to figure out what style his German audience would respond to.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Germans are way too smart for him. They can see right through his bullshit.
eppur_se_muova
(36,317 posts)Gothmog
(146,050 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,376 posts)room while Bush was speaking and only returned when Merkel arrived afterwards.
Jeb didn't impress much in Berlin. Here's a report from the Guardian:
But Merkel, who nearly always sticks to her own rule not to support a candidate ahead of an election regardless of their political colours, made a swift escape, as Bush posed for pictures with other participants.
What Berliners think of Bush matters a lot less than how the speech will go down in the United States. But he remains a largely unknown quantity in Berlin.
Germans are comparatively well informed on international affairs, but only one out of eight people shown a photograph of Bush recognised him. One asked if he might be a Fifa executive, another speculated he was someone from the EU.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/jeb-bush-berlin-germany-foreign-policy-iraq
"FIFA exec" - you've gotta love it!
From France 24: "German Press Response to Jeb Bush: 'Not bad, but he's no Obama.'" (my quick translation - the article is in French) http://www.i24news.tv/fr/actu/international/ameriques/74444-150610-la-reponse-des-medias-allemands-a-jeb-bush-pas-mal-mais-ce-n-est-pas-obama
From French-speaking Switzerland: "On his German Visit, Jeb Bush Calls Putin a 'Bully.'" (also in French) http://www.tdg.ch/monde/visite-allemagne-jeb-bush-traite-poutine-brute/story/24255933
The second article points out that most European press have focused on Bush's careful omission of any mention of brother George and also that the German welcome was no more than lukewarm (tiède), at best.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Springslips
(533 posts)My family have supported German government since the early 1930. . .