all just in the last month!

44% - 32%
41% - 31%
43% - 35%

Hmm.... Bernie seems to be getting the newer voters that are deciding! At this rate, the poll might even out in a couple of months if the differentials continue to drop by 2% each successive poll!

I was pleased. Donated to him twice, and they were small amounts. Am hoping to hit the $40 average donation he's mentioned by election day next year..

He can do it! Heck, what am I saying: He will do it!

I love Bernie but he can't win a General election.

if she can't take Bernie how is she gonna take down Jeb?

how strong is she if she can't deal with bernie.

if Sanders beats Clinton, he mops the floor with whatever goon emerges from the GOP cage battle.

Bernie vs Trump debate.

I am allowed to dream, I hope.

but I will grant you this. I am one of the few people taking Trump more seriously.

There are two reasons:

1.- He can self finance.

2.- We are at one of those populist moments, and he does appeal to more people than folks realize...

Not that I want him as President mind you, it would be a real nightmare. But I take him quite seriously. That said, I hope you are correct.

I'm saying Bernie winning the Democratic Party primary guarantees a Republican would win in the general election. Morons on the far left couldn't tell the difference between Al Gore and George W Bush to this day we are living those consequences

Wtf does Gore and Dubya have to do with this?



You're saying that Bernie winning the primary guarantees a Republican win. That means to me, that Dems won't show up. Or that the Clintonistas will sit home in a snit.

Clinton or Jeb, both part of the same coin.

Clinton would pick someone like Ginsberg for the court. Bush would pick Thomas.

"morons" "insane"

Bernie wouldn't pick anybody lousy for the Court.

His nomination gets us a Republican president Who would then give us somebody terrible

But they will for Hillary.

there are voters who won't vote for hillary but will vote for bernie.

We are pretty evenly divided in this nation. There is no huge middle to grab anymore, this will be a base election and voting AGAINST Hillary will bring all the GOP to the polls. It will be like a cattle drive. Treating people who always vote Dem like their votes do not matter compared to 'undecided' voters is not a good way to bring out the base.
If Hillary want to give up sure votes to seek out 'moderates' cool, but it won't bring out reliable voters. That's how we lost the midterm, ignoring the base in favor of trying to get moderates that do not exist. I watched my party do it in my state. We, the far left stinky granola eating liberals got things done; MJ legalization, minimum wage tied to inflation, protected the environment... We did not manage to vote in a Democrat for the Senate. Because our Democrate was very moderate and tried to sound lije a republican to get the 'moderate' vote that did not exist.

I expect democrats to continue doing foolosh stuff for the next few cycles before they figure out that the base is not moderate. We will lose.

pejorative. Classy.

Clinton won't keep packing the court with anitabortion, antigay freaks. Jebbie will.

I like Bernie too. America won't elect a self avowed Socialist.

It was never true and certainly isn't true now.

Those guys would have won. It doesn't matter what Bernie believes all the Republicans have to say is the word socialist over and over and over again and no one will listen to

But it was a great way for the DLC and Bill Clinton to be presented in '92. And it's been used by the corporate Dems ever since.

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McGovern and Mondale won one state each. Before Clinton we lost three consecutive elections.

You remember, the election when the party rejected the base and picked the "electable" Democrat?

Humphrey couldn't beat Nixon, even with Wallace siphoning off the deep South.

you really think Eugene McCarthy could've won? Bobby Kennedy probably would have if he wasn't assassinated

Another candidate might have gotten slightly better turnout, which would have been enough to defeat Nixon due to Wallace on the ballot.

But we can't really know. All we know is "electable" wasn't actually "electable".

(I wasn't around either, but you don't have to be there to read statistics)

they aren't laughing at Bernie now.

Younger voters like the oldest guy running just like in 2008 they liked the black guy.

I am worried of Jeb Bush in the Whitehouse.

Goodbye marriage equally. Women would kiss the right to choose goodbye. What makes you think that he can win.

I lived in Vermont for four years. I am a fan of Bernie and am very familiar with him. That why i know he can't win. Honestly what makes you think he can win?


If he ends up winning I will publicly admit on this site I was wrong and I will eat crow.

There is far too much to say there isn't much difference between GOp and corporate Dems.

It's the courts that are throwing out gay marrage ban.

Bernie voted against DOMA while Bill clintons igned it and hillary on senate floor called marriage a union between one man and one woman.

People can change overtime for the better and become.

JFK was an America First member when he was in college.

Name calling and senseless doom!!1 claims.

They want to run against Hillary.The MSM wants Bush VS Clinton redux.

Our poll experts said he wouldn't break double digits...

Then, "He won't break 20..."

Then "His ceiling is 30..."

Well whaduno 35. And he is definitely taking from Clinton's numbers.

Hmm...well...harumph...it's NH, right next to Vermont and you know whiiiiite.

Hey Bernie, I hope you REALLY wanted to be Prez

Thom Hartmann stated this.

but it was the pre-primary polling from Wisconsin ( two weeks away ) that made him drop out.

McCarthy was CLOBBERING him in the polls and it wound up a landslide.

Do you remember the 1948 election?
The one where everyone said that Dewey beat Truman?
Sheesh. Give me a break already!

I mentioned that the Hillary campaign were probably looking at some troubling internal polling. Looks like I was correct. I expect a new round of Bernie smears in the morning, once talking points have been distributed.

There internal polling is likely troubling for campagin to send McCaskill to trash him.At least Bernie will respond directly.Media couldn't get Hillary to answer any questions.

The "socialist". It's going to go into high gear. It just makes me even more resolved to do more for Bernie.

The more he treats it like the pro that he is.
People will get sick of the negative campaigning, and Bernie will be a shoe in!

... the more they like him.


And the more they prefer him to the alternative.

Plan A seems to have been to ignore him.


It doesn't appear to be working.


I wonder what Plan B is.

Hmmmmmm.......

while his unfavorables have remained at 11.

Only thing I can think of is that she's ( I mean THEY.... i.e. Clinton, Inc) going to go to "pedal to the metal" red-baiting.

In which case can we dub this chapter "The Return of the Goldwater Girl"?


Life is strange. But Democratic Party politics is stranger.

I can't wait for the cross tabs...

(DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS ONLY
43: “Which of the candidates who are either running or considering running for the Democratic nomination would you NOT vote for under any circumstance?”
June 2015

JOE BIDEN 6%
LINCOLN CHAFEE 4%
HILLARY CLINTON 11%
MARTIN O’MALLEY 2%
BERNIE SANDERS 6%
JIM WEBB 3%
SOMEONE ELSE – SPECIFY 4%
NONE / ALL ARE OK 35%
DK / NOT SURE 30%

(DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS ONLY
45: “Which Democratic candidate do you think is least honest?”
June 2015

JOE BIDEN 5%
LINCOLN CHAFEE 3%
HILLARY CLINTON 28%
MARTIN O’MALLEY 2%
BERNIE SANDERS 2%
JIM WEBB *
SOMEONE ELSE – SPECIFY 1%
DK / NOT SURE 60%



(DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS ONLY
46: “Which Democratic candidate do you think best represents the values of Democrats like yourself?”
June 2015

JOE BIDEN 7%
LINCOLN CHAFEE 1%
HILLARY CLINTON 30%
MARTIN O’MALLEY 1%
BERNIE SANDERS 41%
JIM WEBB *
SOMEONE ELSE – SPECIFY 1%
DK / NOT SURE 19%

Everyone said that Dewey would win. It was even in the papers.
And what happened there?

She came out to yell SOCIALIST yesterday.

I can't wait for the 3AM phone call ad update.

Wolf is a news reader. He's probably not making up the poll results.

Just yesterday they were so hated and now that there is a flimsy poll with Bernie up a few points, ya'll love Wolf again. How odd.

Reading around and listening to people who lean right saying they would vote for Bernie.

And they tell me that they may disagree with Bernie on a lot of issues, but they would vote for him in a NY minute over ANYONE else, simply because of the fact that he is honest, and not only talks the talk, but walks the walk.