2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumConcerns about Hillary's downward trend in KEY swing states.
This is very worrisome if you consider how important these states are.
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morningfog
(18,115 posts)a very low floor.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Once she actually starts appearing, expect it to get MUCH worse.
She has the habit of putting her foot in her mouth, or if not that, simply not being likeable.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)momentum, gaining recognition, his most uphill battle since he was a virtual unknown two months ago. He knew he had to get his message out, and doing it this way was the most logical thing to do. Once his message is heard, the crowds began showing up.
The media paid attention, more people get to know him, his poll numbers keep climbing while Hillary's are dropping.
And this is why we are seeing the negative smear campaign, the race card being played, the desperate search for SOMETHING, ANYTHING to stop the momentum.
And none of it will work, because the old way of politics, the politics of personal destruction are EXACTLY why people are leaving both parties in droves.
They don't get it. They are so out of touch that they keep on doing the same old things, and it is turning people OFF.
Everyone I talk to is sick to death of the smears and attacks they see in every campaign.
Have you noticed that Hillary's supporters talk MORE ABOUT BERNIE than they do about ISSUES?
While Bernie keeps on talking about ISSUES.
And they don't understand why their old tactics are failing so spectacularly.
I'm thinking, this is WORKING for Bernie, because all over the country people are noticing. Hillary's supporters DON'T TALK ABOUT ISSUES!
They are negative, trying so very hard to make Bernie look bad and all they are doing is making Hilalry look bad.
It's amazing to watch as I at least thought that with all the money they have they would at least hire some smart people who would KNOW how bad these tactics are.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I want a president who knows me, in other words a person who knows about the plight that we live with day to day. Bernie does.
Hillary is beholden to the rich people evidenced by the fact that she takes so much money from them. People don't give large sums of money for shits and grins, they want something in return and that something the rich wants is not GOOD for us 'little people,' as leona hemsley called us back years ago.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)a long time ago, but during the Bush era we were preoccupied with other things. Imagine if there was no money in politics, that entire Republican party would instantly be reformed and we would have a Party of the People again.
In every way this is definitely the most important thing to fix because until it is, nothing else is going to change.
Thing is that she will be unable match record minority turn out Obama was able to get to vote. Even Obama would have challengs with matching enthusiasm of voters after 8years of governance.
I'm convinced Bush vs Clinton will be nightmare scenario for democrats
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)HRC ignores questions about the growing wealth gap. She thinks that rising tides lifts all boats. Problem is only her wealthy friends have boats. The rising tides are drowning the rest of us.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)It's like the choice between a cool glass of water or seconds of yesterday's shit sandwich.
fbc
(1,668 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)in fact he rarely even mentions his opponents at all. Rather he talks about the shit thats being forced on us for years now and that is resonating with the people. I want to hear more as do every one else it seems. Everyone who isn't already caught up in the Hillary web that is.
It wasn't that long ago when I'd be saying how I'd like to see Hillary win but those days are gone. I'll vote for her if she is our candidate without a problem as I'm a life long true blue democratic party animal but I'll do it holding my nose thats for sure. She is not speaking in a language that resonates with me. Hillary is for continuing the same shit, Bernie isn't.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)Team Hillary is whistling past the graveyard yet again....